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To: edge919

You have confused and combined various internet web site reports.
Janice Okubo was referring specifically to the photoshopped image of Obama’s COLB that was on the Daily Kos and Fight the Smears web sites and she was NOT referring to the actual hard copies of Obama’s COLB that the Chicago Tribune, Factcheck.org and the St. Petersburg Times received for review. Okubo could not verify one side of a photoshopped image, however she COULD and DID verify hard copies of the Obama COLB.

You can read the St. Petersburg Times report in its entirety for yourself here (from June 27, 2008):
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2008/jun/27/obamas-birth-certificate-part-ii/

And OVER A YEAR LATER, here is what Janice Okubo had to say (From July 17, 2009): and I quote Ms. Okubo, “Its crazy, said Janice Okubo, director of communications for the Hawaii Department of Health. ‘I don’t think anything is ever going to satisfy them.’

Okubo, who said that she gets weekly questions from Obama ‘birthers’ that are ‘more like threats’ explained that the certificate of live birth reproduced by Obama’s campaign SHOULD HAVE DEBUNKED THE CONSPIRACY THEORIES. ‘If you were born in Bali, for example, Okubo explained, ‘you could get a certificate get a certificate from the state of Hawaii saying you were born in Bali. You could not get a certificate saying you were born in Honolulu. The state has to verify a fact like that for it to appear on the certificate. But it’s become very clear that it doesn’t matter what I say. The people who are questioning this bring up all these implausible scenarios. What if the physician lied? What if the state lied? It’s just become an urban legend at this point.’”
http://washingtonindependent.com/51489/birther-movement-picks-up-steam

Now does that sound like someone who is retracting her “valid Hawaii birth certificate” statement? I don’t think so.


51 posted on 04/11/2010 12:23:46 PM PDT by jamese777
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To: jamese777
Janice Okubo was referring specifically to the photoshopped image of Obama’s COLB that was on the Daily Kos and Fight the Smears web sites and she was NOT referring to the actual hard copies of Obama’s COLB that the Chicago Tribune, Factcheck.org and the St. Petersburg Times received for review.

You're getting the facts way wrong. Those sources didn't get hard copies of the alleged COLB. The only hard copy is the one that factlack claimed they saw by going to Obama headquarters ... and that wasn't produced until late July or Aug. 2008. Politifact, which was what we were discussing, only saw an e-mailed jpg. Spokesbabe Okubo saw it by e-mail and said it looked like hers, but when pressed had to admit that she couldn't confirm it was real. The hard copy photographed and posted on the factlack site has not been confirmed as real either. In fact, the DOH has gone out of its way to avoid confirming it, despite having statutory authority.

Now does that sound like someone who is retracting her “valid Hawaii birth certificate” statement? I don’t think so.

It sounds like someone is being extremely careful about what she's saying. She doesn't say the alleged COLB is real. She doesn't say the COLB proves that Obama was born in Hawaii. She doesn't say that the COLB is factually correct. I see a lot of whining that could have been prevented with full disclosure and a possible Freudian slip that Obama's COLB SHOULD say he was born in another country. And I see someone who is willing to accept double-talk as a substitute for the truth.

52 posted on 04/11/2010 8:45:27 PM PDT by edge919
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