Posted on 04/06/2010 7:33:27 PM PDT by curth
I think r9etb’s point is valid, and it isn’t just the posting police at work. (I would have been more diplomatic than r9etb)
It doesn’t have anything to do with Attention Deficit Disorder or attention spans that are too short.
It has to do with effective communication. I come to FR mostly to obtain information, sometimes to give it.
I use FR as a sounding board to learn the best way to present my point of view (living in the People’s Republic of Massachusetts as I do) so that I can effectively communicate issues to liberals.
Ever try to explain Hillary’s “WhitewaterGate” scandal to someone? There is a reason why it never gained traction and sunk Hillary as it should have: People’s eyes glazed over before you could pour the necessary foundation to get the point across. And it wasn’t just liberal eyes that glazed-it was conservatives who really wanted to understand.
And that was a relatively complicated issue.
This one, not so much: “Change.org, an organization that is considered by many to be a front for the Obama Administration, is spamming people to pressure the Discovery Channel to drop a show with Sarah Palin.” I get that.
The point is, if anyone tries to present this information in this fashion outside of FR to ANYONE else, all it is going to do is make people wonder what is in the water some of us drink, not cause them to ponder the nature of Change.org.
I agree. While it is a worthwhile post, it is way to long and difficult to read, plus it is extremely hard to tell where the information(the emails)start and end and which of the writings are the authors and which are from the Bozo crowd.
LOL...I should amend that. I (myself) was trying to be constructive in my criticism. Others, maybe not as much.
Yes, you were at least constructive. ;)
That is pretty much covered in the heading already. You read further if you want to follow the sequence of events for the whole story. One doesn't have to if one doesn't want to. No one forces anyone to read any stories they don't want to on FR.
“The point is, if anyone tries to present this information in this fashion outside of FR to ANYONE else, all it is going to do is make people wonder what is in the water some of us drink, not cause them to ponder the nature of Change.org.”
It depends on what site you are presenting this information to. lus there is something called speed reading, or scanning the story for the salient points.
Back on point, this “r9etb”s declaration that it's a “full of crap” is just idiotic. He is the one that is full of crap. I don't see any "crap" in this story.
How's this for Whitewater?
It was like a timeshare but presented as a "rent to own".
The kicker is that if you were late with even one payment, anytime during the term of the loan, you forfeited ALL interest in the property and it became just a rental.
And they kept the money.
Cheers!
Agreed. If it had been me, I would have posted it as html, and tried to italicize the email to distinguish the poster’s text from the email and from text taken from other sites.
To me, reading the original post was not unlike trying to listen to a bunch of conversations going on simultaneously in a noisy room.
The lead is buried in this monstrosity of a post, I agree.
It should begin:
“An activist group linked to the Obama admin is trying to pressure the Discovery channel into canceling a series on Alaska that will be hosted by Sarah Palin. The group, Change.org is blah blah blah.”
Then, the specifics would follow.
Bwaahaaahaa! That’s great...nice job, GW...
That is as succinct as it gets! (I’m gonna save that!)
Sarah has The Regime constantly on the DEFENSE, a game that they don't know how to play.
$1 million per episode. Read it and weep, Axelpod. Her war chest keeps growing, as does her popularity.
Remember how she disinfected Alaska, 'Pod? Don't you think she had any opposition? And where is it now? She's going to do the same with you.
I can't wait.
I don’t think it is crap, SJ, and I didn’t say so. To the contrary, I think there is good info in there.
When I post, I try to be considerate to those who might be reading, and try to formulate my posts as such. Not always successfully, mind you.
The approach I use is that I treat my discourse with my fellow freepers in the same way I approach a discussion with my boss or a very busy executive.
I attempt to get to the point quickly, and present the salient information in a compact, logical and understandable way. A bullet, if you will. I do it because many of these people are busy physicians, and don’t have time. As I deliver the info, I watch them carefully to see if I am losing them. You can see it in their eyes.
They only have so much time to spare, and I have to communicate complex issues to them and get information from them before I lose them.
I use the same approach to my fellow freepers...or at least try to.
I don't really think people realize the damage wolves can do to both people and animals.
The people behind the attempted thuggery...
Change.org is a social entrepreneurship venture based in San Francisco, CA. The company was founded by Ben Rattray in the summer of 2005, and with the support of a friend from Stanford, Mark Dimas, and a founding team of Darren Haas, Rajiv Gupta, and Adam Cheyer, Change.org launched the first version of its site in 2007.
http://www.change.org/petitions/view/urge_discovery_communications_to_drop_sarah_palins_new_show
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Ben Rattray - still bumming off his family and ‘friends’
After I graduated, I became a consultant in Washington, D.C., and I helped start a social-entrepreneurship venture to enable nonprofits in low-income municipalities find and apply for federal grants. Social-networking technology didn’t really exist until 2004-2005. I had the idea to use this technology to bridge this gap between a general interest in addressing social issues and the practical action.
WSJ.com: What are the most popular causes on Change.org?
Mr. Rattray: Stop global warming is No. 1. Improve public schools, save Darfur and support universal health care are the other most popular causes.
WSJ.com: How does the site make money?
Mr. Rattray: We take 1% of all donations, and we charge for premium services to nonprofits that allow them to brand their network and add additional features to their community. Since May we raised $46,000 in donations.
WSJ.com: How are you supporting yourself?
Mr. Rattray: Right now friends and family are supporting me. I plan on paying them back sometime in the foreseeable future. I spent money from the consulting job on the site. I put all the money I had into this — it’s my baby.
I read the entire article. Took about 5 minutes. It is concise, informative and well documented.
While it is possible, I for one will not be holding my breath.
Okay.
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