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When being a Birther was Cool
Creating Orwellian Worldview ^ | 4/2/10 | Alaphiah

Posted on 04/02/2010 8:19:12 AM PDT by Alaphiah123

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1 posted on 04/02/2010 8:19:12 AM PDT by Alaphiah123
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"...They openly questioned whether or not a presidential candidate was qualified under the second amendment of the Constitutional to be president of the United States of America..."

Oh wait...no they didn't! (I figured that was in the article...:)

2 posted on 04/02/2010 8:47:44 AM PDT by rlmorel (We are traveling "The Road to Serfdom".)
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To: rlmorel

I liked the cartoon there as well...


3 posted on 04/02/2010 8:49:08 AM PDT by rlmorel (We are traveling "The Road to Serfdom".)
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To: Alaphiah123

It’s not so much about being cool to be birhters. The LMSM just think it’s cool to challenge Republicans. It’s part of that famous double standard.


4 posted on 04/02/2010 9:05:31 AM PDT by edge919
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To: Candor7; little jeremiah
When arrogant elitests like Hugh Hewitt and Barry Hussein Obama show open contempt and LAUGH at Americans who wonder what is the precise location of the president's birth place, then it is KEWL/COOL to be a birfer!!
5 posted on 04/02/2010 9:07:51 AM PDT by hennie pennie
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To: edge919

Now you got it! That was exactly what the post was about!!!


6 posted on 04/02/2010 9:08:43 AM PDT by Alaphiah123 (The corruption of man, as Emerson wrote, leads to the corruption of language. And the corruption of)
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To: hennie pennie

Both self-hating Americans!


7 posted on 04/02/2010 9:10:59 AM PDT by Alaphiah123 (The corruption of man, as Emerson wrote, leads to the corruption of language. And the corruption of)
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Not to mention the fact that it was brought up by a democrat.... of course, that is NOT mentioned on the msm..


8 posted on 04/02/2010 9:32:25 AM PDT by Bikkuri ( I dreamed I ate a giant marshmallow. When I woke up, my pillow was missing.)
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Alaphiah is correct, and provides the photocopy of John McCain's birth certificate. McCain didn't satisfy the “jus soli” requirement for the presidency. McCain was not born on our soil. And Obama doesn't satisfy the “jus sanguinis” requirement. He was not born of two citizen parents. The jus sanguinis requirement was repeated by every one of our senators in April of 2008 when both sides wanted McCain to be eligible for the presidency - the Democrats because then the Republicans in the legislature wouldn't challenge Obama’s lack of eligibility, the Republicans for goodness what reason.

McCain probably feels a sense of entitlement. He has served in the military and been a prisoner of war. It was his turn! But he didn't respect the Constitution and is a bit more responsible for what is happening to the republic than other legislators - though they are all complicit, and all know the truth. They play dumb, as did Orrin Hatch, who himself initiated an amendment to the natural born citizen provision in 2003 known as the Schwarzenegger amendment, for obvious reasons. It failed as have twenty three other efforts to pass an amendment extending the scope of natural born citizenship. Polls in 2002 showed about 30% support for modifying Article II Section 1.

Now the Republicans have shown that that to them as well, the Constitution is a living document. Madison's warning that it would become worthless if the meaning of words and terms were not interpreted as they were by the founders. Thomas Jefferson inaugurated a class on Law of Nature and of Nations at William and Mary in 1779. John Marshall and James Munroe were students at William and Mary in 1880. The text used by Jefferson, and used for the following sixty years was the most widely cited legal reference in U.S. jurisprudence, Vattel’s Law of Nations. Marshall, then chief justice of the supreme court, and the most lauded of chief justices for his clarity, cited Vattel in 1814 in The Venus, 12 U.S. 253. Vattel was cited in a half dozen other cases on the issue of natural born citizens, and cited 95 times between 1789 and 1820 alone on myriad other issues. Vattel, as James Kent said, is our common law.

If our Constitution is to be respected, both candidates for the presidency in 2008 were illegitimate. Obama simply challenged its validity straight on; he said I was born a subject of the British Commonwealth because my father was a British subject. He even mentioned the 1948 British Nationality Act. He said, in effect, the Constitution is an artifact; I don't respect it so I'll ignore provisions I don't agree with. Challenge me if you dare! But Hillary was waiting in the wings and McCain would have been disqualified. Obama was one of the signatories of Senate Res. 511 in which all senators agreed - a legally meaningless political subterfuge - that because both of his parents were citizens, John McCain was a natural born citizen. Every senator was fully aware, from three books and numerous interviews, that Obama’s father was never a citizen. The whole senate is complicit. But Obama is not a constitutional president. There is far too much history on the subject for there to be any doubt.

9 posted on 04/02/2010 9:35:22 AM PDT by Spaulding
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To: Bikkuri

Attorney Phillip Berg is his name!


10 posted on 04/02/2010 9:46:50 AM PDT by Alaphiah123 (The corruption of man, as Emerson wrote, leads to the corruption of language. And the corruption of)
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To: Spaulding

I can tell you’ve been deep into this Spaulding. It was an honor to read your post.


11 posted on 04/02/2010 9:50:36 AM PDT by Alaphiah123 (The corruption of man, as Emerson wrote, leads to the corruption of language. And the corruption of)
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To: Spaulding
What part of the Constitution is that in, exactly?
12 posted on 04/02/2010 10:07:40 AM PDT by Ready4Freddy ("It's not the number of burnt cars that worries me. It's the fact that everyone finds this normal..")
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To: Spaulding
Sorry, I was referring to your statement:

McCain didn't satisfy the “jus soli” requirement for the presidency.

What part of the Constitution is that in, exactly?

13 posted on 04/02/2010 10:10:22 AM PDT by Ready4Freddy ("It's not the number of burnt cars that worries me. It's the fact that everyone finds this normal..")
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To: Alaphiah123
qualified under the second amendment of the Constitutional to be president

Perhaps you meant "Article II of the Constitution"?

14 posted on 04/02/2010 11:23:52 AM PDT by Tex-Con-Man
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To: Spaulding; LucyT; rxsid; Red Steel; butterdezillion; roaddog727; STARWISE

Just pinging a few names to Spaulding’s concise, accurate and EZ to understand* comment.

*My favorite kind.


15 posted on 04/02/2010 11:23:53 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Asato Ma Sad Gamaya Tamaso Ma Jyotir Gamaya)
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Yeah, it was cool for the dumb butt libs when the New York Slime and Washington Poops ran articles questioning McCain’s eligibility. Nothing but crickets from them now....


16 posted on 04/02/2010 11:30:30 AM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel

The vast number of traitorous assistants is mindboggling.

I can’t imagine how this is going to play out. My mind just is boggled.


17 posted on 04/02/2010 11:34:52 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Asato Ma Sad Gamaya Tamaso Ma Jyotir Gamaya)
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To: little jeremiah
Off the subject a little. The Obama administration is putting the screws to the Alabama legislature for what appears to be bizarre reasons. Were they going to pass something to see if Obama is eligible for office or something?

FBI conducting corruption probe focused on gambling, bingo bill passed by Alabama Senate

18 posted on 04/02/2010 11:40:08 AM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Spaulding

I agree that by strict application of ‘jus soli’ McCain is/was ineligible for POTUSA. However, I also believe that at the time there was a strong, hidden effort to bring BHO to the forefront and any means available should be utilized. Article I Section 8 allows, in fact, tells, congress to ‘define’ and punish offenses against the Law of Nations which was embedded into Constitution and is the authority for ‘jus soli’ tied with ‘jus sanginis’. Congress as such could in it’s twist of logic,for purposes not known to the public, ‘define’ McCain’s place of birth as with his parents. This was palatable because of McCain’s father being a high level USA service person in a country very close with USA prsence. So McCain’s situation could be rationalized as it was. However, that left BHO’s situation hanging. I suspect there was a lot of backroom discussion as to how to ‘define’ a permission that could be applied to BHO’s ‘jus sanguinis’ situation: but there was no way to ‘define’ or redefine BHO’s father’s Kenyan citizenship. So- resolution OK for McCain but not possible for BHO, In any case this indicates members of congress probably knew what the Constitution meant by natural born citizen. At least BHO was left with the challenge against McCain if McCain had won the election.


19 posted on 04/02/2010 11:57:12 AM PDT by noinfringers
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Just for a little chronological history. The questions about McCain started appearing around Feb of 2007. By June of 2007 there were a lot of Youtubes about it as well as blog activity regarding the issue.

If Obama used his own COLB as a template for the Factcheck forgery, he got his COLB in June of 2007 - at least 6 months after he had amended it.

As the issue gained steam for McCain Obama probably ordered his COLB so he could triumphantly produce it if the questions turned to him.

It must have been a surprise to him when it came back with a note saying that he had amended an item from the medical portion of the BC, which itself isn’t included on a COLB. I’m sure he thought that the amendment had taken care of his problem. He then realized that he couldn’t get anything authentic from Hawaii that didn’t have that amendment noted on it. And he probably didn’t like seeing 2006 in the birth certificate number - the official date his birth certificate was finally completed. He knew he was going to have to sanitize a bunch of records and come up with a Plan B for documenting his birth.

I believe it was around the time that the resolution for McCain was being made that the passport records were breached and sanitized.

A few months later the fake COLB scans came out.

When people didn’t buy those, the birth announcements came out.

About a week later Factcheck came out with the COLB photos with the certificate number that isn’t possible for the “Date filed” on it.

Then Fukino made her announcement saying they have an original birth certificate on record in accordance with policies and procedures.

He did anything he could to show what seemed to be authoritative documentation without actually having to show the real document - which raises serious questions about where Obama was at birth and the 30 days following birth.

He couldn’t allow anybody to know that only CERTIFIED copies are protected from disclosure, because anybody who asked for a non-certified copy of his COLB could have gotten it according to administrative rules and they would immediately have seen his problem. So Fukino had to take down the administrative rules from public view.

The timeline and actions of Obama actually make a lot of sense when you know what he was hiding and what options he had.


20 posted on 04/02/2010 12:09:32 PM PDT by butterdezillion
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