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Pope willing to excommunicate Catholic Priests accused of pedophilia, turn them over to authorities
examiner.com ^ | April 1, 2010 | RĂ©ne Girard

Posted on 04/01/2010 10:36:21 AM PDT by RGirard

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To: Cardhu
It took us a while to grow up but now in the 21st century we are pretty much fear free and do not believe in myths.

ROFL!!!

That's a joke, right???

The XXI Century is pervaded with myths.

Things like:

A fetus isn't human; just an "obligate parasite" to be destroyedon a whim.

Socialist Medicine won't cost the US Taxpayers a dime ... might even save money.

Adam and Steve can marry each other.

Buggering boys doesn't really harm them. Making a fuss about it harms them.

Barack Hussein Soetoro Odinga Whatever 0bama is a natural-born US Citizen.

Islam is the Religion of Peace.

God is dead.

Shall I go on?

Plenty of disgusting secularist myths. I just listed a few of them above.

101 posted on 04/01/2010 2:14:19 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: MikeWUSAF

Because you like the armed forces and hate the Catholic church.


102 posted on 04/01/2010 2:15:17 PM PDT by stop_fascism
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To: RGirard

Good.

Now for the Catholic politicians who support abortion—Biden, Pelosi, Casey, Carney, etc. etc. etc.


103 posted on 04/01/2010 2:16:46 PM PDT by Palladin (Regroup, Resist, Reload, Repeat!)
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To: ArrogantBustard

great come backs! :-)


104 posted on 04/01/2010 2:19:20 PM PDT by RGirard ("If you read just one book this year ... " by An American Man)
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To: ConservativeMind

only about 80 years


105 posted on 04/01/2010 2:22:44 PM PDT by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: MikeWUSAF
Apples and Oranges

ROFL!!!!

You're startin' to look like a rapist protector, there ...

That is, judging by the standards you appear to use when judging Catholics.

106 posted on 04/01/2010 2:30:10 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: ArrogantBustard

I was talking about Europe you just listed the lunacy on your continent.

We have our own lunacies over here but the fortunately religous one is withering away. Even in Ireland no less. at one time every family was proud to have one son as a priest, but now they have become prosperous and better educated that tradition has gone.

If the Bavarian policeman´s son. Grand Inquisitor loses Ireland the catholic church is in deep trouble.


107 posted on 04/01/2010 2:43:07 PM PDT by Cardhu
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To: Cardhu
The lunacy of abortion, faggotry and socialism is rampant in Europe.

Heck, Socialism was invented in Europe.

Thanks, guys.

108 posted on 04/01/2010 2:45:28 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: RGirard; ArrogantBustard
great come backs! :-)

But an "F" in geography and reading comprehension, nevertheless, he will certainly graduate cum laude from the same school that you did. :)

109 posted on 04/01/2010 2:52:30 PM PDT by Cardhu
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To: Cardhu; RGirard
I just love the smell of argumentum ad hominem in the afternoon ...

It's the smell of


110 posted on 04/01/2010 3:02:11 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: RGirard; ArrogantBustard; MikeWUSAF; marshmallow
Well it has been great chatting with you folk - but while you are still happily wallowing in All Fools day, on this side of the pond I have moved on to a new day.

Goodnight, may the Enlightenment come soon- :)

111 posted on 04/01/2010 3:05:14 PM PDT by Cardhu
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To: Cardhu

Goodnight! It’s fun to laugh and it does a body good :-)


112 posted on 04/01/2010 3:13:22 PM PDT by RGirard ("If you read just one book this year ... " by An American Man)
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To: oneolcop
In the light of the info on another FR thread at #3 and #33, effective corrective steps have reduced the incidence of abuse, at present, to near-zero in most Catholic institutions --- a record not even remotely approached in any other church or school system in the USA, and certainly not in the public schools.

One weird aspect of this is that most of the abuse was between the mid-60's and the mid-80's, which is to say, 25-45 years ago. The diligent work of Cardinal Ratzinger when he was at the CDF, and now as Pope Benedict XVI, has rooted most of this stuff out of the Church.

So now we have the New York Times banner-headlining stuff like the Fr. Murphy case, where the offenses were committed 45-50 years ago and the old perp has been dead for 12 years; and without any evidence that Ratzinger even knew about the case, they try to make it Ratzinger/Benedict's fault.

And with every step he's taken to restore discipline, he's accused of restoring the "inquisition" ---by this same NYT writer, Laurie Goodstein-- (one link of many!) and of being--- let's not forget--- "antigay."

It's frustrating that they try to pin the blame for abuse on the very guy whose main "fault' has been doctrinal and disciplinary effectiveness.

It's like blaming the fires on the Fire Department, or the crime wave on the police.

113 posted on 04/01/2010 4:05:11 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("Do you mean now?" ---Yogi Berra, when asked "What time is it?" ---)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

I am a protestant but as long as you believe that Jesus died for your sins and was the son of God ,we all are saved. So it is not the catholic faith that I address. It is the catholic criminal priests. I’m afraid that Ratzinger was complicit in a cover up . We are not talking about misdemeanors here. This is child molestation and child rape.No one is above the law. Arrest and prosecution should ensue immediately.


114 posted on 04/01/2010 5:49:39 PM PDT by rogertarp
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To: Mrs. Don-o

I am so digusted by all these “hate Catholics” articles I just don’t read them. I thought this was a real article and that’s why I clicked on it.

Then it turned out it was a fake article written by an idiot for reasons unclear, and the thread is peopled by Catholic haters and probably God in general haters.

Your comments and Arrogant Bustard’s are the only ones worth reading (and a couple of other names, forgive me for forgetting - I read this thread sevearl hours ago).

People who call religious beliefs a myth are taking (in their own minds) the place of God - the All Knowing Supreme Being. Their statements based on brittle bravado only reveal their envy and ignorance.


115 posted on 04/01/2010 7:25:51 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Asato Ma Sad Gamaya Tamaso Ma Jyotir Gamaya)
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To: MikeWUSAF

Wanting to know truth is bad?

You’re a real ***hole, aren’t you.


116 posted on 04/01/2010 9:29:46 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Asato Ma Sad Gamaya Tamaso Ma Jyotir Gamaya)
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To: little jeremiah
You’re a real ***hole, aren’t you.

To people that rape children and to those who protect the rapists, yes I'm a real ***hole.
117 posted on 04/02/2010 3:47:50 AM PDT by TSgt (When the government fears the people, there is liberty. - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: rogertarp
Are you speaking about the Fr. Murphy case? (Or some other? I'm not sure of your context.)

Everybody of the discussion (you, me, everybody) hates and is revolted to the core by the abuse of children. Yet oddly, the discussions here seem to ignore the fact that sexual abuse of a minor is a CRIME, and should first have been referred to the civil authorities for investigation and trial.

In almost all of these cases, either the victims or their parents never brought charges, or the police and the prosecutors for some reason never went forward with the cases. Thus if the matter internally (in the Church) got to the point of a canonical trial, there was little to go on, and no independent means of verifying testimony. The Church is no power to do criminal investigations, to subpoena witnesses, etc.

If the accused had been found guilty by the civil authorities, the church could then have removed the offender from office with the stroke of the bishop's pen: much more easily than by having its own inadequate investigations etc.

(In my view, the local bishops who didn't do this--- I'm thinking of Weakland, Bernard Law, etc.--- are the most to blame.) The shocking, jaw-dropping failure of process and administration is a major cause of this terrible crisis.

A very even-handed analysis from a good source (NCR's John Allen) is here (Link).

118 posted on 04/02/2010 8:26:13 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("Do you mean now?" ---Yogi Berra, when asked "What time is it?" ---)
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To: MikeWUSAF

You don’t belong on FR.


119 posted on 04/02/2010 8:29:41 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Asato Ma Sad Gamaya Tamaso Ma Jyotir Gamaya)
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To: MikeWUSAF; lentulusgracchus

Check this prince among men out if you want, lentulus.


120 posted on 04/02/2010 8:30:23 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Asato Ma Sad Gamaya Tamaso Ma Jyotir Gamaya)
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