[Pollster1]

No. The second law of thermodynamics and evolution are not in any way incompatible. Evolution is consistent with the 2nd law because energy is being added to the earth’s ecosystem, which allows a locally more complex system such as life to be added because the overall entropy (state of disorder) for the solar system as a whole increases. This particular aspect of science does not by itself refute evolution, but neither does it prove evolution. Evolution is consistent with other scientific theories; the question is whether the theory matches the facts.

[Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus]

Evolution is consistent with the 2nd law because energy is being added to the earth’s ecosystem, which allows a locally more complex system such as life to be added because the overall entropy (state of disorder) for the solar system as a whole increases.

Not necessarily. I can throw a bunch of watch parts into a pan and heat them on my stove, and the parts won't increase in order merely because the overall entropy of the stovetop is increasing.

For this particular evolutionist argument to work, they need to take into account that the addition of energy to the earth's ecosystem must undergo the application of organisation, which is what life does. However, it is completely inadequate to explain where that organisation came from in the first place. At best, this attempt by evolutionists to get around the thermodynamics problem for evolution does nothing more than simply point out the tautology that already-existing life uses energy to increase and expand its organisation.

[Joe Brower]

Concur. To add a philosophical bit to it, it's a fitting irony that the driving engine of all natural change also points to its ultimate demise.

[nysuperdoodle]

In order for the universe to have order, it must, by definition, be a non-contained system. Who or what is adding energy (work) to this system to give it order? I see three possibilities: 1 - it just magically happens and we should stop asking questions 2 - the Second Law of Thermodynamics is wrong. 3 - God

[Donald Rumsfeld Fan]

Evolution is consistent with the 2nd law because energy is being added to the earth’s ecosystem, which allows a locally more complex system such as life to be added because the overall entropy (state of disorder) for the solar system as a whole increases.

No, it is inconsistent with the second law.

Entrophy is decreased only with a particular type of energy i.e. work. Random energy, in the context of biological evolution, cannot reduce entrophy, it can only increase entrophy.

Random energy

[wbarmy]

Evolution is not the addition of energy to a system, it is the addition of information. Evolutionary changes are the addition of new information which changes the organism in better ways.

Addition of uncontrolled energy (i.e. the sun) is always destructive and contributes to the breakdown of systems. It must be controlled through the information stored in the cells of plants and animals in order to make the energy constructive (usable).

[Upstate NY Guy]

There is a real interesting article linked at the bottom of the Evil Conservative web page article.

Gravity Emerges from Quantum Information, Say Physicists

I think the general idea is that gravity is the result of the erasure of quantum information and not the other way around. They are speaking of the event horizon surrounding a black hole. Not sure how the normal force of gravity we are all famitiar with has anything to do with losing quantum information. Still it is an interesting artlcle.

Any thoughts on this matter?