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To: bigbob; Diogenesis

And, having known pathological liars, they all believe that what isn’t known, hurts no one. This sort of person will actually justify a lie as a beneficent act that saves others from knowing something hurtful.

They lie out of kindness.


70 posted on 03/30/2010 12:12:18 PM PDT by reformedliberal ("If it takes a blood bath, let's get it over with." R. Reagan)
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To: reformedliberal

The pathological liars I have known do not lie out of kindness; they lie to put others down and raise themselves up, to get out of any possible harm to themelves, to support other lies they told, and for other personal gain.


101 posted on 03/30/2010 6:44:34 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Asato Ma Sad Gamaya Tamaso Ma Jyotir Gamaya)
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To: reformedliberal; bigbob; little jeremiah

Pathological liars lie for their own benefit, to save their own hide; they do not care a whit about anyone except themselves. Pathological liars are lacking empathy; and the lacking of empathy is called psychopathy.

Psychopathy is a personality disorder characterized by an abnormal lack of empathy combined with strongly amoral conduct, masked by an ability to appear outwardly normal.

Researcher Robert Hare, whose Hare Psychopathy Checklist is widely used, describes psychopaths as “intraspecies predators” as does Simon.

Elsewhere Hare and others write that psychopaths “use charisma, manipulation, intimidation, sexual intercourse and violence” to control others and to satisfy their own needs.

Hare states that: “Lacking in conscience and empathy, they take what they want and do as they please, violating social norms and expectations without guilt or remorse”. He previously stated that: “What is missing, in other words, are the very qualities that allow a human being to live in social harmony”

According to Hare, psychopaths are glib and superficially charming, and many psychopaths are excellent mimics of normal human emotion; some psychopaths can blend in, undetected, in a variety of surroundings, including corporate environments.

According to some, there is neither a cure nor any effective treatment for psychopathy; while psychopaths who undergo traditional talk therapy only become more adept at manipulating others.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychopathy

[This information, and much more about psychopaths, can be found in a hospital medical library.]


128 posted on 03/31/2010 3:18:54 PM PDT by LucyT
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To: reformedliberal

I disagree.

Pathological liars have to feel superior to you. They are pumping up their own egos because they have an internal sense of inadequacy.

The pathological liar will tell you a lie when in fact the truth would be of more benefit to him, but he does so because when he is through with you and meditating on his accomplishments, he is gloating in the belief that he is smarter than you are; that you were dumb enough to believe it.

But mainly, he is pumping his own ego.

Am I a psychiatrist or a psychologist?

No, I am not. But my brother is a psychological psychopathic serial liar who, if you listen to him would have you believe that he was agent 007 in WWII.

He actually won it.

Obummer, the Marxist now posing as a Fascist, lies to you because he believes that he is so smart and so convincing and that you are such an ignorant red neck that you believe him. After all, as he has said, he won. You did not.


138 posted on 03/31/2010 9:50:19 PM PDT by old curmudgeon
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