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Lefty Site Still Has Democrats Short of Needed Votes to Pass ObamaCare
Firedoglake ^ | March 20, 2010 | David Dayen

Posted on 03/20/2010 8:20:42 PM PDT by jacksonmartin

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To: mlocher

Huh? Don’t say the truth?

Anyway, Michelle Bachmann said the same thing on Fox news.


21 posted on 03/20/2010 8:51:09 PM PDT by RushingWater
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To: RushingWater

Fox News has done a miserable job during the last two days. They keep reporting that the Rats have 217, which is not true.
Cavuto was awful, cut off Jon Voight.
These people need to hear from us:
Roger.ailes@foxnews.com


22 posted on 03/20/2010 8:53:36 PM PDT by Mountain Mary
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To: RushingWater
Huh? Don’t say the truth?

Some truths will stick to some people, while other people will discount the same truth based on their biases and prejudices. A speaker needs to know their audience so they can deliver the best arguments. Fox viewers will generally understand Bachman's statements.

MSNBC viewers would not understand the argument and write her off as a kook.

I want to win the vote tomorrow, not win every single point by point argument that leads up to the vote.

23 posted on 03/20/2010 8:56:44 PM PDT by mlocher (USA is a sovereign nation)
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To: mlocher

Thanks, but you know, it’s the truth and they’ve said as much. The Congressmen who came out to speak to us on the steps tonight also reiterated it.


24 posted on 03/20/2010 9:15:46 PM PDT by freepertoo
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To: freepertoo
I agree with you. It is the truth. However, is it an argument that the fence sitting democrats will listen to? Is it an argument that a lefty will listen to? Is it an argument that an independent will listen to?

These are questions that need to asked as we take our message of conservatism to the public. Packaging the message is critical. You need to understand your audiences. Yes, we need to be as creative, innovative and targeted as Madison Ave. advertisers. Dems get this and that is why we are living a nightmare right now.

By the way -- my thanks for showing up at the capitol today! I wish I had that opportunity, but my lot in life is to make phone calls and clog e-mail servers. I was with you in spirit!

25 posted on 03/20/2010 9:22:24 PM PDT by mlocher (USA is a sovereign nation)
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I have to disagree with you. The fact that IRS agents are already being considered if this bill goes through is an extremely plausible argument, and the Congress, itself, back it up. All you have to do is ask them...any one of them, Conservative or Liberal. I think I heard it from a liberal first.


26 posted on 03/20/2010 9:36:26 PM PDT by freepertoo
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To: jacksonmartin

Excellent news. I’d love to see Nasty Peelousy’s face when this thign goes down the drain.

Of course, with all that botox, she may not be able to move it very much.


27 posted on 03/20/2010 9:59:09 PM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: freepertoo

We will have to agree to disagree. I respect your opinion, but having much exposure to advertising, I see things a bit different. Take care!


28 posted on 03/20/2010 10:06:08 PM PDT by mlocher (USA is a sovereign nation)
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I sat with Senator Baccus for 45 minutes. He said
bringing up the IRS particulars was probably one of the
best ways to get peoples’ attention.


29 posted on 03/21/2010 6:10:58 AM PDT by freepertoo
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