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Not one bit of innuendo. See post 27.

You will not today or any other day defend John Paul II without also having to defend bth the pedophilia that occured under his watch and his refusal to make those who were harmed whole.

Several groups of those harmed petitioned him directly. This is not going away and neither you personally nor anyone else can separate the good things he did from this very, very inexcusable thing.

If the Catholic Church chooses to beatify him in the face of this it will have a very tough time justifying it to the rest of the world. It will be pretty much continuing to say what happened in Ireland and Boston and across the globe really, is okay.

Wow, you place a heavy burden of accusation at the feet of Pope John Paul II. The Catholic Church teaches that the Pope, the Bishop of Rome, is the successor to Saint Peter. All of the bishops around the world are the successors to the Apostles, who themselves lead the faithful in their local Churches. John Paul II courageously led the Bishops of the world toward living an authentic Catholicism, one 'not of this world' but radically different, one that truly took up the cross and followed Jesus Christ. Unfortunately, not all Bishops followed him. The secular world's politically correct culture influenced them more.

Pope John Paul II appropriately called our secular society "a culture of death". His first public teachings in his General Audiences as Pope began in September, 1979 and have been collected and taught as The Theology of The Body. He presented an integrated vision of the human person - body, soul, and spirit - with an emphasis on our sexuality and God's most beautiful original design. These teachings are truly a beautiful treasure and gift for the world and Church.

Unfortunately, the human beings (yes, priests are human too) that make up the Church have free will and are "in the world". For some, that also conspired to make them "of the world". The depravity of the secular world's twisting of the gift of our sexuality infected some of our priests. IMO, the "fault" for that lies mostly at the feet of various local Bishop's not Pope John Paul II. The Bishops who were orthodox, traditional and followed the lead of Pope John Paul II mostly did not have the homosexuality (it was not by and large 'pedophilia'; do some reading of the facts [USCCB: A Report on the Crisis in the Catholic Church in the United States] rather than buy the MSM line) problems with priests in their diocese that the liberal dissenters did.

The life and example of Pope John Paul II actually led to less problems in the Church with homosexual priest's abuse of children and young people (tons more has occurred AND CONTINUES in public schools and with pastors in other faith traditions) than would have been without his example and shepherding. God will be the judge of that too, rather than us.

“to defend bth the pedophilia that occured under his watch and his refusal to make those who were harmed whole.”

What decades did most of the cases happen? I thought it was the 50s-60s-70’s? I also thought the instances went down while he was Pope? Is that true? Why did they go down?

I would say his papacy will be looked back at as having a lack of discipline, and not just about the homosexualist priests, but in not confronting liberal bishops about their ways, which he himself admitted. And the homosexualist priest scandal is going to be looked back at as as being dwarfed by the scandal of bishops not treating abortion like what they say it is.

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