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To: jamese777
Thus far 54 Obama eligibility suits have been disnussed in state and federal courts across the nation, almost always the grounds for dismissal has been lack of standing meaning hte wrong persons bringing suit, persons who cannot demonstrate “injury in fatt”. McCain-Palin campaign could demonstrate injury in fact but they haven’t sued.

The Federal judiciary is not immune to political pressures or other influences, just like politicians, despite their lifetime bench appointments. We only need 1 case to get to trial on the merits to blow it wide open Obot.

10 posted on 03/10/2010 11:26:56 AM PST by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel

If people want to avoid personal responsibility for ‘outing’ BO by continuing to fund any lawyer promising to bring a case to court, now we know, there is a way, at least in TX, to fashion a viable case. But what is preventing citizens from taking control of their own lives by 1) exploring the laws in their states to determine whether they (through their legislators) have enacted laws requiring candidates whose names appear on the ballot must be eligible for the job; and 2) filing citizen complaints of election fraud with their elected state A’sG, against any member of the D Corporation or state D party who swore to state election officials BO was eligible for the job without ascertaining beforehand based on documentary evidence, this was true? Or, having filed such citizen complaints, from storming the state house to demand an investigation into these charges?


12 posted on 03/10/2010 11:50:50 AM PST by jbjd (http://jbjd.wordpress.com)
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To: Red Steel

The Federal judiciary is not immune to political pressures or other influences, just like politicians, despite their lifetime bench appointments. We only need 1 case to get to trial on the merits to blow it wide open Obot.


However many of the Obama eligibility cases dismissed for lack of standing have been state and local level cases. For example:
Ankeny v Daniels—Indiana state courts
Brockhousen v Andrade—Texas state courts
Broe v Reed—Washington state courts
Connerat v Browning— Florida small claims court
Donofrio v Wells—New Jersey state court
Ealey v Obama—Houston, Texas court
Keyes v Bowen—Superior Court of California
Marquis v Reed—Washington state courts
Martin v Lingle—Hawaii state courts
Neal v Brunner-Ohio state courts


13 posted on 03/10/2010 12:00:45 PM PST by jamese777
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To: Red Steel; james777; jbjd
We only need 1 case to get to trial on the merits to blow it wide open Obot.

In order to do that:
(1) the plaintiffs have to be in the right court.
(2) The plaintiffs have to have the right lawyers.
(3) The plaintiffs must be the right plaintiffs.

(1)The Right Court:
Constitution says Federal District Court in Washington, DC. for a Writ of Quo Warranto. You want a Birth Certificate? The State Courts of Hawaii. Hawaiian Law absolutely requires that it be made public, because it has been used as the basis of public statements made by state officials. Unless they are liars.
(2) The Right Lawyers:
The Taitz-Kreep-Berg crowd has been outmaneuvered on just basic procedure. You know? Like what day it is and what court are we in, again? They are supposed to be "Birthers," but they didn't even bother to explore the Hawaiian options open to them until recently. OTOH, Team Obama is using the highest-priced talent in the land, backed up by the highest-priced local legal talent in every jurisdiction as required. Newsflash: "highest-priced" = the "Best" (usually). The score: Team Obama: 54, The legal Little League 0. No surprise there.
(3) The Right Plaintiffs:
The most glaring legal weakness: Not one (1) major Republican candidate, not one (1) elected Republican on the state or federal level has come forward to put his name on a lawsuit. Not (1). So we are left with military officers who want to know whether or not their orders are valid, etc.

The people are the plaintiff. The people have been wronged. The only court in the land where this can be constitutionally addressed is the Federal District Court in Washington, D.C. The Attorney General has first crack at being the people's representative. After he turns it down, and only then, can a lawyer petition that court to act in his place. Imagine how long that rigamarole can take! BTW, that court is as political as they come. You want to see foot-dragging, obfuscation, dilatory tactics? You is in the right place.

OK! There is some good news. Mario Apuzzo and Leo Donofrio, a couple of decent New Jersey Americans and sharp attorneys, have managed to maneuver this onto the right track, despite the damage already done to the case by ineptitude (and worse.). They may, MAY, manage to get this through the Federal District courts and onto SCOTUS for an appeal, and a determination, finally, on what a "Natural Born Citizen," is.

But get real. By that time, BHO, Jr.'s term could very well be over. State legislators are making many harrumphing noises (what they do best) about requiring proof of eligibility for 2012. But I have talked to quite a few, and they are all hung up on birth certificates. Our Fearlessly Ineligible Leader could have been born atop the Washington Monument on the 4th of July, been immediately baptized by a gay Episcopal Female Bishop, and been serenaded by the Marine Band. Still does not make that son of a Subject of the Crown a "Natural Born Citizen."

Your heart is in the right place, Red Steel. But what's right and what's law can be mighty different.

24 posted on 03/11/2010 6:43:55 AM PST by Kenny Bunk (Go-Go Donofrio. get us that Writ of Quo Warranto!)
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