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To: dools007

I don’t know that he has usurped the Constitution and neither do you. We should steer clear of the insane, it does the cause no good at all.


26 posted on 03/08/2010 5:42:43 PM PST by Patrick1
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To: Patrick1
I don’t know that he has usurped the Constitution and neither do you.

If as Comrade Obama Jr claims his dad was Barak Hussein Obama Sr, of Kenya,
than it's not possible for Junior to be a Natural Born Citizen of the U.S.

At the time of the drafting and ratification of the United States constitution,
the definition of natural born citizen, combined both the principles of jus soli and jus sanguinis.

“The citizens are the members of the civil society; bound to this society by certain duties, and subject to its authority, they equally participate in its advantages. The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens.
As the society cannot exist and perpetuate itself otherwise than by the children of the citizens, those children naturally follow the condition of their fathers, and succeed to all their rights. The society is supposed to desire this, in consequence of what it owes to its own preservation; and it is presumed, as matter of course, that each citizen, on entering into society, reserves to his children the right of becoming members of it. The country of the fathers is therefore that of the children; and these become true citizens merely by their tacit consent. We shall soon see whether, on their coming to the years of discretion, they may renounce their right, and what they owe to the society in which they were born. I say, that, in order to be of the country, it is necessary that a person be born of a father who is a citizen; for, if he is born there of a foreigner, it will be only the place of his birth, and not his country.”
Emmerich De Vattel, (1714-1767,) Law of Nations, 1758, § 212, "Of the citizens and naturals."

43 posted on 03/09/2010 1:35:52 AM PST by ASA Vet (Iran should have ceased to exist Nov 5, 1979, but we had no president then either.)
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To: Patrick1

It’s really simple. Show me a valid birth certificate proving The Usurper is native born and the issue is closed. He’s had over a year to do that and has refused. Not to mention his refusal to release college transcripts or his failure to credibally explain how he paid for trips to the Middle East as a student.

In any case, it isn’t only about the birth certificate. It’s one issue among many. Seems to me Onada’s total failure to accomplish his Marxist agenda—including his attemp to destroy our capitalist economic system—is taking care of itself.

The presidential requirement to be a native born American is an important element of the Constitution. It precludes the possibility that someone not born in America can become president. You understsand, of course, why this was important to the Framers?

Do you have any respect all for the Constitution? When people start to ignore this tenet or that tenet it eventually dissolves. At what point will you choose to ignore the Constitution’s acknowledgement that we have the inalienable rights to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness? These rights do not come from human beings. And especially not a bunch of corrupt sucking the public trough dry pols..

I think you over look the fact that issue in America today is the Constitution. The economic and political situations are only symptoms of that reality. Onada and his band of angry commies want to invalidate the Constitution—the document that has provided the framework for the freest and richest country in the world—for Marxism—an economic system thst has failed where ever it’s been tried.


45 posted on 03/09/2010 4:48:21 AM PST by dools007
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