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To: jamese777
The long form has hospital, doctor’s name, parents’ address and parens’ race. That’s what is additional from what is on the short form.

Also parents birthplaces, occupations and ages For example, the mother of the Nordyke twins was born in Los Angeles, California and had no outside occupation. Their father was a doctor and was born in Woodland, California. Their mother was 34, their father 42.

Birthplaces at least give a starting point for citizenship, no?

Also, the races of the parents *are* on the short form. That's one of things people question, since BHO Sr. is listed as "African", which would be unusual nomenclature, especially in 1961, when one would expect "Negro, or Negroid". Perhaps more likely the latter, given that his mother is shown as "Caucasion" rather than "white".

Boers from southern Africa are "African" just as much as Luos from Kenya. If his father had been an Australian Aborigine we would not expect "Australian" would we?

117 posted on 03/08/2010 5:02:10 PM PST by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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To: El Gato

Honolulu, Hawaii is considered a birthplace and being born at 7:24 pm on August 4, 1961 documents age. The Constitution requires those two pieces of information that are found on a birth vital record in order to meet Article 2 Section 1 requirements. That information is on the short form as well as the original long form and the state of Hawaii has verified that information for Barack Hussein Obama II.

It was typical in 1961 and its still typical today for persons from sub-Saharan Africa to list their race by a geographic location(ethnicity or nationality) rather than a skin color. Today it is more likely that they would put “Nigerian” or “Kenyan” but Kenya did not become an independent nation until 1963 and it did not become a republic until 1964.
“Negro,” “African-American” or “Colored” can be offensive terms to persons from sub-Saharan Africa. They often prefer to differentiate themselves from black Americans.
The state of Hawaii has said that they put on their certificate whatever racial designation the parent lists.


119 posted on 03/08/2010 5:19:51 PM PST by jamese777
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