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To: DJ MacWoW
All the trolls are getting input from their bosses about now. ;-)

Then this should really make their heads explode-

"Every Person born within the limits of the United States, and subject to their jurisdiction, is by virtue of natural law and national law a citizen of the United States. This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the Government of the United States, but will include every other class of persons."
Senator Jacob Howard, co-author of the citizenship clause of the 14th Amendment, 1866.

The 14th Amendment does not confer citizenship of any kind to children born of parents who are foreigners or aliens.

Like Africans here on student visas.

28 posted on 03/05/2010 6:32:00 AM PST by MamaTexan (NO ONE owes allegiance to an unconstitutional government)
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To: MamaTexan

In Elk v. Wilkins 112 U.S. 94, 5 S.CT. 41, 28 L.ED. 643 (1884), the court ruled that native Indians were not U.S. citizens, even if they later severed their ties with their tribes. The words “subject to the jurisdiction thereof,” the court held, mean “not merely subjct in some respect or degree to the jurisdiction of the United States, but completely subject to their political jurisdiction, and owing them direct and immediate allegiange.”

Title 8 and the 14th Amendment both state; All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.

So explain how “not merely subjct in some respect or degree to the jurisdiction of the United States, but completely subject to their political jurisdiction, and owing them direct and immediate allegiange.”

So to ‘what’ degree was Barack Hussein Obama under US Jurisdiction at birth? Knowing that he was already under British jurisdiction, and how that being only partial or to whatever degree you impose not being in conflict with “completely subject to”?

Mind you this is The Supreme Court that has stated complete and not partial to any degree jurisdiction.


29 posted on 03/05/2010 6:38:07 AM PST by syc1959
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To: MamaTexan
Very interesting. Thanks.

In the last couple of days, I have quit posting any info. I believe that the troll effort is now to see how much Freepers know. Trolls know they won't change anyone's mind. So it's fishing and disruption for them.

30 posted on 03/05/2010 6:39:12 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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