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To: jamese777
“No guts, no glory.” If the Republican Governor of Hawaii and the Republican Attorney General of Hawaii and Vice President Cheney, John McCain and Sarah Palin plus the entire Republican delegation in Congress are allowing their employees to play tricks and are afraid to take action, whose fault is that?

What employees are you talking about?? You're off on a logical fallacy or bizarre tangent.

Vice President Cheney, in his role as President of the Senate chaired the joint session of Congress where written objections to the certification of Obama’s electoral votes could be entertained and where counting and certification of the Electoral votes was the ONLY order of business. Any member of Congress can raise a point of order under the rules of both Houses, none did. A point of order immediately suspends business as usual.

For some reason, Cheney didn't ask for objections, which I believe is how the procedure is supposed to go ... plus Fancy Nancy was pushing things along. Of course, at that time, we don't know with as much certainty as we do now that the certificate number was most likely fraudulent. There may have been questions, but not to the point where anyone felt comfortable raising an objection.

One more time, ANY repeat ANY prosecuting attorney in the nation could launch a criminal probe and subpoena Obama’s birth records.

Please cite the source for you reasoning. Sounds like good drama, but it may be short on factuality.



The only nationally known figure to challenge Obama in court is Alan Keyes and he’s hardly a household name. None of the top conservative law firms or political organizations have joined in any eligibility suit or even filed an amicus brief on behalf of any lawsuit.

Which proves what??

The persons most likely to have legal standing to sue Obama because they were directly injured by his election are McCain and Palin. They have not sued or joined in any suit.

McCain's a wimp and he was the beneficiary of Democrats declaring him elegible with their nonbinding resolution. Politicians don't generally bite each other in the hand.

The Republican Party deals with Barack Obama as the duly elected president of the United States. They even invited him to their winter retreat and asked no questions about his eligiblity.

It's not like Obama would do much but lie or complain. What would be the point??

Obama is 63-0 in getting legal challenges dismissed, issuing decisions in his favor or rejected by courts all across the nation and at every level of the judicial system including seven rejections at the Supreme Court.

I predicted a long time ago that no court in the country would touch this case because of the huge, cult-like popularity Obama enjoyed and his strong margin of victory over wimpy McCain. Since no court has actually had the nads to hear an actual case, it doesn't mean a whole lot that these cases have all been dismissed, other than the courts being afraid to tackle it.

There’s no “there” there.

We know Obama has little up there ... America deserves the whole truth and nothing but the truth instead of ambiguities and misdirection.

357 posted on 03/05/2010 11:56:37 PM PST by edge919
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To: edge919

What employees are you talking about?? You’re off on a logical fallacy or bizarre tangent.

For some reason, Cheney didn’t ask for objections, which I believe is how the procedure is supposed to go ... plus Fancy Nancy was pushing things along. Of course, at that time, we don’t know with as much certainty as we do now that the certificate number was most likely fraudulent. There may have been questions, but not to the point where anyone felt comfortable raising an objection.

Please cite the source for you reasoning. Sounds like good drama, but it may be short on factuality.


The “employees” of Governor Lingle that I mentioned are: Dr. Chiyome Fukino, Director of the Hawaii Department of Health and Dr. Alvin T. Onaka, Registrar of the state of Hawaii. They are both appointees and employees of Governor Lingle’s.

I agree that Vice President Cheney SHOULD have asked for objections to the certification of Obama’s Electoral votes. The most likely explanation to me is that because objections had to be submitted in writing and he had received none, he didn’t bother asking the question. Any of the 535 members of Congress couls have raised a point of order if they had a written objection to submit, none did.
Dick Cheney, President of the Senate was running the joint session, not Pelosi.

I already posted a link to the section of Hawaii law that allows for subpoena of vital records without the permission of the person named on the record. Here’s the link again, point 9 is what I’m referring to:
http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/hrscurrent/Vol06_Ch0321-0344/HRS0338/HRS_0338-0018.htm

Obama’s birth certificate can be released to a person with a valid court order from a court of competent jurisdiction.
If there was ever an investigation of Obama for forgery or fraud in connection with his internet posted COLB, a subpoena could be issued by a judge to a prosecuting attorney such as a US Attorney, a state Attorney General or a local District Attorney.


361 posted on 03/06/2010 2:30:23 PM PST by jamese777
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