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"This is why the 'subject' clause is in the 14th amendment. Tha authors recognized that being subject to another nation would prevent the U.S. from being able to affirm sole citizenship via jus soli births."

Actually, no. Every person on American soil, to include foreigners merely visiting or here illegally, are subject to the jurisdiction of the United States except for foreign diplomats and occupying armies.

It has nothing to do with any other nation's grant of citizenship, and neither the 14th Amendment nor any part of the Constitution betrays any consideration or desire to affirm sole citizenship.

"It's pretty hard to prove any controlling legal authority when there's no paper trail connecting randoms coutries with random citizens."

So? It's pretty hard to prove any controlling legal authority even when there is a paper trail.

Nations possess controlling legal authority only over their own territory.

"Because the concepts conflict when jus sanguinis is extranational. Jus soli can't be extranational, because you can't be born in two countries at the same time. Either one of the concepts is natural or the other is. They can't both be natural unless they are the same and reinforce each other. Otherwise, you're saying natural born is defined diffently in different countries."

Well... as a matter of fact natural born is defined differently in different countries (at least in those that speak English and bother to define it at all). Most countries do not have the phrase anywhere in their lexicon. But any country can define their own citizenships any way they want... they are after all sovereign nations.

The American definition is based exclusively on jus soli. No other nation gets to tell us how we define it, or who we consider a natural born American. And no other nation gets to take away the citizenship that the United States chooses to bestow. We too are a sovereign nation.

Again... dual citizenship only means there are two citizenships. As long as one of them is natural born American, then he is eligible to be president.

This is a common occurrence. probably tens of millions of Americans are in exactly that boat.

I personally am one of them.

Actually, no. Every person on American soil, to include foreigners merely visiting or here illegally, are subject to the jurisdiction of the United States except for foreign diplomats and occupying armies.

Sorry, but this doesn't address in any respect what I wrote. It really helps if you read all the words. I'll give you a second chance and see if you can figure out.

It's pretty hard to prove any controlling legal authority even when there is a paper trail.

No it's not. Try coming up with a rational argument instead of pointless contrariety.

The American definition is based exclusively on jus soli.

No, it's based on a combination of jus soli and and jus sanguinis. This is evidenced going back to the charters of the original colonies. It has never been defined simply by jus soli. What your thinking of is 14th amendment native born citizenship. And dual citizenship is mutually exclusive with natural born citizenship. It might work with native born citizenship, but not with natural born. There is no such thing as dual nature when it comes to citizenship and allegiance.