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To: TigersEye

That’s from your link. You lied. It was not obtained from the HI dept of health. It’s the same old cyber-fake they gave to Kos. Also none of the statements your link goes to says anything about being born in Honolulu. You lied about that too.


I think you missed these sections that are also from my link: “We e-mailed it to the Hawaii Department of Health, which maintains such records, to ask if it was real.

“It’s a valid Hawaii state birth certificate,” spokesman Janice Okubo told us.

The Hawaii Department of Health receives about a dozen e-mail inquiries a day about Obama’s birth certificate, spokesman Okubo said.

“I guess the big issue that’s being raised is the lack of an embossed seal and a signature,” Okubo said, pointing out that in Hawaii, both those things are on the back of the document. “Because they scanned the front … you wouldn’t see those things.”

Okubo says she got a copy of her own birth certificate last year and it is identical to the Obama one we received.”


198 posted on 02/26/2010 8:10:27 PM PST by jamese777
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To: jamese777
In a phone call to Dr. Alvin Onaka, the Hawaii State Registrar and Head of the Office of Health Status Monitoring (OSHM), of which Vital Records is a part. Dr. Ron Polarik posed as a writer doing genealogy research, knowing that if he portrayed himself as yet another investigator seeking information on Obama's birth records, that he would be immediately shot down. Strictly speaking, he was collecting vital record information on Obama's heritage, after all.

Then, Polarik slipped in the the following question. He asked him if Janice Okubo had confirmed that his office produced a 2007 Certification of Live Birth, date-stamped June 6, 2007, with Obama's birth information on it, and he quickly replied:

"Absolutely not. No one in our office confirmed it."

199 posted on 02/26/2010 9:39:54 PM PST by TigersEye (It's the Marxism, stupid! ... And they call themselves Progressives.)
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To: jamese777
Genealogist Says It's Bogus
A third investigator, a genealogist, says The FactCheck.org Certificates of Live Birth (COLB) have been an issue since they were posted.  In an attempt to backup the original forgery posted on the Obama campaign website, "Fight the Smears," FactCheck.org overlooked glaring errors with both COLBs.  I reference that there are two separate and individual documents as one clearly shows an embossed SEAL while the other does not.  The one that does contain an embossed SEAL, however is not an official SEAL from the State of Hawaii Department of Health, and hence, the document itself is already in question.
 
Here (in an image rich file) in an attempt to identify additional ink markings from the Statement and Signature Stamp applied to the back of an authentic Certificate from the Vital Records Department, I will be using the FactCheck.org images and developing a composite image based on several layers, and seeing if any additional indications can be detected.

This genealogist concludes the COLBs are forgeries, plain and simple.

Forgery #1 - The COLB posted on 'Fight the Smears' - No Stamp, No Seal, evidence of tampering and forgery. Sandra Ramsey Lines, Ron Polirak, and myself, among others.

Forgery #2 - FactCheck - Two different COLB's one with a SEAL, however NOT an Official State of Hawaii Department of Health SEAL

Forgery #3 - FactCheck - COLB without a SEAL, image of COLB being held up. High resolution and NO indicating of a SEAL.

So, how can there be three versions of a document that Hawaii NEVER issued?

200 posted on 02/26/2010 9:45:35 PM PST by TigersEye (It's the Marxism, stupid! ... And they call themselves Progressives.)
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