The Face Of Alinksy At CPAC (Ron Paul and Gay Rights)

feb 21 2010 | TSM

[OCCASparky]

Well, Paul is a Libertarian, and as I’ve said before, Libertarianism is a great political theory if you’re 16.

[Cu Roi]

In this example I believe they sent out people in KKK outfits in support of a republican cadidate to undermine him and make him look racist.

Can you please clarify? Whom were THEY supposedly supporting? This is the first time I've seen anything about this.

[jazminerose]

He makes sense on the fed & the economy in general. When he goes off on foregin policy, he’s absolutely bonkers.

[Revolting cat!]

What’s an ‘Alinky’ and what’s an ‘Alinksy’?

[Three if by government]

It makes no sense to argue with a Ron Paul tin hatter but I dont remember hearing that they had liberal detectors at the door and yes I do believe Ron Paul people and the left were trying to undermine CPAC and allow the left media to report on something it was not.

Support of the gay marriage act and Ron Paul as representative of what went on.
It was about saving our nation from tyrany and looking to foundational principles and traditional values.

[Three if by government]

Did I insult your dear leader for leaving a letter out?

So easy to irritate the left....

[Captain Kirk]

Dick Cheney disagrees with your attempt to compare Ron Paul’s oppositon to world policing with Obama’s policy. Cheney says he “completely agrees” with Obama on Afghanistan.

[Three if by government]

Captain we need more lithium crystals.....

[DarthVader]

Bravo and very true.

[Three if by government]

agreed

[OCCASparky]

He makes sense on the fed & the economy in general. When he goes off on foregin policy, he’s absolutely bonkers.

I wouldn't even give him that much credit. His ideas for "reforming" the Fed, the IRS, et al, are akin to taking a speeding truck and trying to stop it by throwing it into reverse from 100 mph. He'd turn our economy into a shambles for a generation, at least.

[Nightbird]

I was at CPAC — there was no alinskyite conspiracy.

The fact is Ron Paul has a large, devoted following of libertarian minded people — many of them young people.

They registered for CPAC and the Campaign for Liberty was a sponsor.

2500 people voted in the straw poll (i didn’t, because it means little to me and it was never made obvious where I was supposed to get my ballot), and out of those 2500, 31% supported Mr. Paul.

It’s no different from when thousands of pleasant young people from all over showed up in support of Romney.

There’s no conspiracy.

As far as the “gay agenda” taking over CPAC, that’s a joke.

There exists a group called GOProud. They had a booth, just like the National Poker Alliance had a booth. Heck, the John Birch Society had a booth. It’s easy to pay a fee and have a booth. I’ve seen the ACLU there in the past.

It’s CPAC — if people want to show up and make their case as to why they should be included in the conservative movement, they’re free to do so, just as people are free to ignore them.

[OldDeckHand]

"CPAC has jumped the shark given it's pay to play concept"

I think legitimate criticism can and should be leveled at CPAC. But, I'm not sure their fee structure is one of them. It's not cheap to put on these big events. Every organization is going to charge something when it has it's annual "convention". CPAC is no different. It was less than $200 for a 3-day pass. That's well within the norm for these kinds of events. I go to some legal events that can be 5-6 times that amount of money.

[B Knotts]

Did all the people complaining about Ron Paul winning the CPAC straw poll object as strenuously when Mitt Romney won it?

It is a meaningless “poll,” which is more or less a game, requiring organizational skills.

The gay thing, though, was too much. A pro-family speaker ought not be shouted down at a “conservative” conference.

[jazminerose]

The idea of auditing the fed makes good sense to me. Especially as a prelude to getting rid of it.

[Three if by government]

http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2010-02-20/young-and-republican-at-cpac/full/

The left already had the stories locked and loaded. No speak about small government liberty and defeating tyrany.

[jazminerose]

Here is Alinsky info:

My President Was an Honor Student at the Alinsky Academy:

http://joytiz.com/2009/my-president-was-an-honor-student-at-alinsky-academy/

[OldDeckHand]

"A pro-family speaker ought not be shouted down at a “conservative” conference."

That's right. I don't think anybody would be shouted down at a conservative conference. That's just not how conservatives behave, at least in my experience. But, that certainly is a mark of a leftist's mentality - win the debate by not letting the other guy speak.

No conservatives are throwing pies in the faces of liberal speakers, but how many times has it happened to Ann Coulter? Conservatives are civil even in the face of incivility.

[mommya]

Thanks for your first hand observations.

[Nightbird]

Agreed, but that’s not what happened.

I wasn’t in the room, but it’s my understanding that a few people booed a guy who said that the GOProud group shouldn’t be allowed to have a booth.

They didn’t boo him for being pro-family, they (a few people) booed him (not a heavyweight, whoever he was) for deciding that he should be the authority on who should or shouldn’t be allowed to be a paying sponsor of CPAC.

Again, there is always a WIDE variety of organizations with booths there, from the ACLU to the National Organization for Marriage to Judicial Watch to the Birchers to the NRA to the Susan B. Anthony List.

The point is that CPAC has never been some fulcrum of lock-step conservative organizations — different groups can set up there (although the discussions and speeches are typically only with traditional conservative types).