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To: bgill

His status is not “governed” by Great Britain. His status is governed by the Constitution.

Tomorrow morning, France could declare that all residents of North Dakota are now French citizens. Would that make all residents of North Dakota ineligible to be president?

What is astounding is that Justice Roberts has spent a career limiting standing to great applause from conservative legal scholars. And Justice Scalia has spent a career fighting the use of foreign law in US courts.

And now, we are supposed to abandon those principles because it helps in these eligibility cases.


135 posted on 02/20/2010 8:52:54 AM PST by MrRobertPlant2009
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To: MrRobertPlant2009
“His status is not “governed” by Great Britain. His status is governed by the Constitution.

Tomorrow morning, France could declare that all residents of North Dakota are now French citizens. Would that make all residents of North Dakota ineligible to be president?

What is astounding is that Justice Roberts has spent a career limiting standing to great applause from conservative legal scholars. And Justice Scalia has spent a career fighting the use of foreign law in US courts.

And now, we are supposed to abandon those principles because it helps in these eligibility cases.”

Sadly, to the obsessed, everything is secondary to their obsession. Reminds me that bit from “A Man For All Seasons”:


William Roper: So, now you give the Devil the benefit of law!

Sir Thomas More: Yes! What would you do? Cut a great road through the law to get after the Devil?

William Roper: Yes, I'd cut down every law in England to do that!

Sir Thomas More: Oh? And when the last law was down, and the Devil turned ‘round on you, where would you hide, Roper, the laws all being flat? This country is planted thick with laws, from coast to coast, Man's laws, not God's! And if you cut them down, and you're just the man to do it, do you really think you could stand upright in the winds that would blow then? Yes, I'd give the Devil benefit of law, for my own safety's sake!

146 posted on 02/20/2010 11:09:35 AM PST by tired_old_conservative
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To: MrRobertPlant2009; bgill
"His status is not “governed” by Great Britain. His status is governed by the Constitution.

Tomorrow morning, France could declare that all residents of North Dakota are now French citizens. Would that make all residents of North Dakota ineligible to be president?

What is astounding is that Justice Roberts has spent a career limiting standing to great applause from conservative legal scholars. And Justice Scalia has spent a career fighting the use of foreign law in US courts.

And now, we are supposed to abandon those principles because it helps in these eligibility cases. "

He was born with British citizenship no matter where he was born. He inherited that foreign citizenship from his foreign national father. US laws can not prevent a foreigner from passing their citizenship on to their child. The opposite is true as well.

International law recognizes this.

In your scnenario, it would not be recognized internationally. Besides, the US could then declare all French citizens (including the previous ND residents) to be US citizens. It's absurd. Not only that, but it would cause a war between the country's.

So far as I can tell, there are only two way's he get's "out" of having been born with foreign citizenship, inherited from his father. 1) Sr. really isn't his father or 2) The marriage between his parents (recognized by the state of HI as valid in the 1964 divorce record) is subsequently determined to be illegal.

Either of those scenarios is a no win situation for ole' Barry. Most of the conservatives and moderates that have been protecting him re: his eligibility problem, would then bail on him, IMO.

155 posted on 02/20/2010 2:37:43 PM PST by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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