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To: Idabilly
King Lincoln to Nonsensical

Abraham Lincoln to Idabooby.

"He [Stephen Douglas] is blowing out the moral lights around us, when he contends that whoever wants slaves has a right to hold them; that he is penetrating, so far as lies in his power, the human soul, and eradicating the light of reason and the love of liberty, when he is in every possible way preparing the public mind, by his vast influence, for making the institution of slavery perpetual and national." --October 7, 1858 Lincoln-Douglas Debate at Galesburg, Illinois

Grant to Nonsensical

Ulysses Grant to Idabooby.

"...As soon as slavery fired upon the flag it was felt, we all felt, even those who did not object to slaves, that slavery must be destroyed. We felt that it was a stain to the Union that men should be bought and sold like cattle." - Grant to Bismarck, 1878

Tyrant to Nonsensical

Non-Sequitur to Idabooby.

Try again. That's from a letter by William Seward, not Abraham Lincoln.

Your butcher offered up the 13th Amendment to FOREEVER protect slavery. Needless to say, it didn't work. Independence from Yankee-ville was much more important.

And why should it? The amendment would have protected slavery were it was legal. The confederate constitution guaranteed slavery in all states, ensured it could never be done away with, required it be introduced into territories, and protected slave imports. Why should the rebels accept the half a loaf of the 13th Amendment when they could have the full loaf in their own constitution?

“No Amendment shall be made to the Constitution which will authorize or give to Congress the power to abolish or interfere, within any state, with the domestic institutions thereof, including that of persons held to labor or service by the laws of said State.” —Joint Resolution of Congress, Adopted March 2, 1861

"Section 1. Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.

Section 2. Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation." - the 13th Amendment that was actually ratified.

419 posted on 02/25/2010 10:47:18 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur
“Abraham Lincoln to Idabooby.

“He [Stephen Douglas] is blowing out the moral lights around us, when he contends that whoever wants slaves has a right to hold them; that he is penetrating, so far as lies in his power, the human soul, and eradicating the light of reason and the love of liberty, when he is in every possible way preparing the public mind, by his vast influence, for making the institution of slavery perpetual and national.” —October 7, 1858 Lincoln-Douglas Debate at Galesburg, Illinois”

Dishonest Abe to Nonsensical

” My understanding is that I need not have her for either, but, as, God made us separate, we can leave one another alone, and do one another much good thereby. There are white men enough to marry all the white women, and enough black men to marry all the black women; and in God’s name let them be so married. The Judge regales us with the terrible enormities that take place by the mixture of races; that the inferior race bears the superior down. Why, Judge, if we do not let them get together in the Territories they won’t mix there.”

428 posted on 02/25/2010 12:41:45 PM PST by Idabilly
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