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To: Non-Sequitur; stainlessbanner; lentulusgracchus
You essentially make three points: all are fine examples of prevarication, sophistry, and puffery.

The facts stand. Your opinion of what might have happened certainly has absolutely no relevance and does not matter.

More than just that, you are beyond logic or fair discussion.

You have a problem in that these facts are antithetical to your intuitional construct of period history, and of course you will continue to misrepresent the events surrounding the secession because it suits your emotional needs, and you think you can influence others who do not know the facts.

Your bias is on parade.

259 posted on 02/21/2010 6:20:41 AM PST by PeaRidge
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To: PeaRidge
You essentially make three points: all are fine examples of prevarication, sophistry, and puffery.

And you made three claims, all based on your own opinion and the assumption that the Davis regime was serious about peace. Something that their actions don't support.

The facts stand. Your opinion of what might have happened certainly has absolutely no relevance and does not matter.

The facts do stand. Fact: the Southern states walked out and walked away from any responsibility for national debt and national obligations. Fact: the Southern states took every bit of federal property they could get their hands on - from forts to mints to revenue cutters to pots and pans - without compensation and without offer of compensation. Fact: that continued with their demand that the federal government turn over property in Charleston and Pensacola without offer of payment. Those are the facts, and as John Adams noted facts are stubborn things. You may claim that the South would have paid for the stolen property. You may insist that the South would have taken responsibility for their share of national obligations. But there is no solid evidence supporting your opinion. No concrete offer to Lincoln. No dollar figure mentioned. No time line proposed. You your claim that the South would have done the right thing is your opinion alone, unsupported by anything other than Lost Cause wishful thinking.

262 posted on 02/21/2010 6:36:11 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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