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To: EnderWiggins
By definition and by law, you are wrong. A certification of live birth is a birth certificate.

Which nonetheless contains much less information than the original "long form" birth certificate. It contains virtually no information that would allow for verification. About all that can be checked is that the mother did live in the location specified, but only to level of city. But due to 'granularity' of the records, if they exist at all, it may be impossible to verify that the mother lived there at that time.

With the long form, doctor's name, wether he/she practiced at the hospital indicated, wether the mother lived at the *address* indicated, can all theoretically be cross checked.

Also given that the COLB is a computer generated abstract, it's ridicously easy to forge, since the forgery will also be computer generated form. Leaving only the seal and signature stamp to be carefully faked.

859 posted on 02/15/2010 11:09:33 PM PST by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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To: El Gato
"Which nonetheless contains much less information than the original "long form" birth certificate."

Absolutely true. That's why we have short forms in the first place; because the long forms contain a vast amount of useless information irrelevant to proving citizenship at birth.

"It contains virtually no information that would allow for verification."

That would only be a problem if verification was required. But the "full faith and credit" clause of the US Constitution says it's not.

"With the long form, doctor's name, wether he/she practiced at the hospital indicated, wether the mother lived at the *address* indicated, can all theoretically be cross checked."

Until such time as you point out to me the presidential eligibility requirements regarding doctors, hospitals or mother's addresses, I can have only one reasonable response: So?

"Also given that the COLB is a computer generated abstract, it's ridicously easy to forge, since the forgery will also be computer generated form. Leaving only the seal and signature stamp to be carefully faked."

Thus explaining the requirement for a seal and signature stamp. Without them, even a long form is proof of nothing.
877 posted on 02/16/2010 8:55:50 AM PST by EnderWiggins
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