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Who Owns Your PC? New Anti-Piracy Windows 7 Update "Phones Home" to Microsoft Every 90 Days
Lauren Weinstein's Blog ^ | Feb. 11, 2010 | Lauren Weinstein

Posted on 02/12/2010 7:25:28 AM PST by hripka

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1 posted on 02/12/2010 7:25:28 AM PST by hripka
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To: hripka

hmm, or you could have a legal version of windows


2 posted on 02/12/2010 7:28:10 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver

What else is it sending?


3 posted on 02/12/2010 7:29:07 AM PST by hripka (There are a lot of smart people out there in FReeperLand)
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To: hripka

You can stop that from happening by putting their web/IP address in your “Hosts” file and block it... :-)


4 posted on 02/12/2010 7:29:50 AM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: hripka

I like windows7 generally, but don’t care much for some of these types of features. I am pretty happy with ubuntu, but M$ indirectly pays the bills...hehe


5 posted on 02/12/2010 7:30:12 AM PST by DonaldC (A nation cannot stand in the absence of religious principle.)
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To: driftdiver

Yup, if you’re not pirating someone else’s property, what’s the problem?

If there is any place where property rights should be understood it’s this forum.


6 posted on 02/12/2010 7:30:33 AM PST by Wally_Kalbacken
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To: hripka
a pair of big, burly guys barge into your house

Yeah. That's just like having the computer do some checking when one of those (usually useful) automatic updates runs when you have decided to shutdown your computer.

ML/NJ

7 posted on 02/12/2010 7:34:11 AM PST by ml/nj
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To: Wally_Kalbacken

The US Constitution needs to have a personal privacy amendment.


8 posted on 02/12/2010 7:34:33 AM PST by Paladin2
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To: Star Traveler

How is that done?


9 posted on 02/12/2010 7:37:42 AM PST by maggief
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(mark for later)


10 posted on 02/12/2010 7:42:51 AM PST by Vn_survivor_67-68
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To: Wally_Kalbacken
if you’re not pirating someone else’s property, what’s the problem?

I don't like running useless processes on my PC that have the ability to falsely invalidate my PC. The validation process in not 100% and false positives are possible. The solution would be a trip to tech support limbo which may or may not clear up the issue. So wasted cycles on my PC with the potential of wasted time dealing with tech support. Not to mention the question of what information is being sent to MS. That's the problem.

11 posted on 02/12/2010 7:43:32 AM PST by Tao Yin
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To: driftdiver
hmm, or you could have a legal version of windows

I have a legal version of Win 7, and I still don't want them poking around.

Oops, we're sorry we crapped up your PC, it "looked" like it was suspect.

I paid for it, but I didn't pay them to snoop.

How about when you buy some DVD movies? Does Disney have the right to come into your living room every 90 days and check your DVD collection?

12 posted on 02/12/2010 7:47:41 AM PST by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s, you weren't really there.)
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To: hripka

bump for later


13 posted on 02/12/2010 7:47:59 AM PST by VastRWCon (Drill Baby Drill - Sarah Palin 2012)
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To: driftdiver

I have a legal copy of Windows XP (several, in fact): 2 months ago, after upgrading the video drivers on one of my machines, it suddenly failed to authenticate, and it took me two weeks to straighten it out with Microsoft, including forwarding copies of my CD key to them.

And finally got a “oops, our mistake”, and it got fixed.

The point is, you ALREADY authenticate the box and license when you activate the OS at install. . . .


14 posted on 02/12/2010 7:54:22 AM PST by Salgak (Acme Lasers presents: The Energizer Border: I dare you to try and cross it. . .)
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To: driftdiver

Another variation of the “what’s the problem with us snooping? do you have something to hide?” argument. I have quite a few PCs and only one left running Windows. This just might push me over the edge to go 100% Linux.


15 posted on 02/12/2010 7:55:03 AM PST by thecabal (Destroy Progressivism)
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To: Wally_Kalbacken
Yup, if you’re not pirating someone else’s property, what’s the problem?

Well, I can tell you exactly where the problem is.

I run Parallels an a Mac, using Windows 7 as a guest OS, for the increasingly rare times I want to use a Windows program. I bought a legal copy of Windows 7 for this use and installed it a few months ago.

Everything ran fine for a while and then I suddenly got a message that my Windows 7 installation "could not be authenticated". Now, remember, I had authenticated it when I installed it, and I had made no hardware changes at all.

In this instance, the fix was both easy and not so easy. All I had to do was re-enter the activation number from the Windows 7 packaging, but I was traveling when this happened, and didn't have that stupid number with me.

Bottom line is that I couldn't use the program that I had bought and legitimately paid for for a period of two plus weeks, and in order to use it after that, I had to go through a lengthy and error-prone process of re-registration.

I feel that retroactively adding this requirement to the Windows 7 program is violating the terms of the EULA I purchased it under, and depriving me of its use for any period of time is an actionable illegal act. The only problem is that the amount of damages I could collect would be too small to make it worth the effort.

OTOH, I can easily foresee a class action lawsuit arising over this practice in the not too distant future.

16 posted on 02/12/2010 7:55:23 AM PST by CurlyDave
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To: Paladin2

How would that help ? The Constitution controls the actions of the Federal Government. Your relation with Microsoft is based on accepting their End-User License Agreement (EULA), a totally private transaction, unaffected by the Constitution....


17 posted on 02/12/2010 7:56:24 AM PST by Salgak (Acme Lasers presents: The Energizer Border: I dare you to try and cross it. . .)
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To: Wally_Kalbacken

I agree, after all, it’s a conservative, mostly Christian forum. No one here would condone anything illegal.


18 posted on 02/12/2010 7:57:05 AM PST by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different)
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To: thecabal

“Another variation of the “what’s the problem with us snooping? do you have something to hide?” argument.”

Its a variation but since its not the govt it is different.

I’d like to know the reason it goes out every 90 days. Seems like once you registered your OS there wouldnt be a need for it to phone home.


19 posted on 02/12/2010 7:58:12 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Salgak

The 13th amendment put an end to a private transaction, and I agree!


20 posted on 02/12/2010 8:00:43 AM PST by hripka (There are a lot of smart people out there in FReeperLand)
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