Posted on 01/31/2010 9:11:21 PM PST by rabscuttle385
It is nothing short of incredible that a combat veteran who has claimed to be a conservative Senator has led the fight to reward with amnesty, the millions of Mexican and Central American nationals who have entered this nation illegally. While the betrayal of the American people on behalf of foreign invaders by Sen. John McCain may be puzzling to most, the former POW actually has somewhat of a history of betraying his fellow citizens in favor of a foreign enemy.
The question of McCain's true motives should be examined.
On October 26, 1967, U.S. Navy Lt. John McCain was shot down over North Vietnam by a Soviet-made surface-to-air missile. As a result of ejecting from his plane, McCain suffered two broken arms and a broken leg. He was immediately captured by an angry mob and turned over to NVA soldiers, who broke his shoulder with a rifle butt and stabbed his foot with a bayonet. He was then taken to the infamous 'Hanoi Hilton.'
Once in a cell, he was beaten and interrogated daily. Still being refused medical treatment and in severe pain, McCain agreed to talk in exchange for medical treatment. He was then taken to a nearby hospital. McCain described the events in his 1999 book Faith of My Fathers, in which he said: "Demands for military information were accompanied by threats to terminate any medical treatment if I did not cooperate. Eventually, I gave them my ship's name and squadron number, and confirmed that my target had been the power plant."
The North Vietnamese Army discovered that Lt. McCain was the son of Adm. John McCain Jr., commander of the Pacific Fleet, and his grandfather was Adm. John McCain Sr. who commanded aircraft carriers under Adm. Bill Halsey in the Pacific during World War II. Because of his family's powerful military heritage, the NVA believed that Lt. McCain would one day hold a prominent position in the U.S. government. He then became the target of incredible torture and attempts at re-education, some sessions were reportedly conducted by Soviet officers.
McCain has said that he was regularly visited by senior communist Vietnamese officials. One visitor was famous NVA Gen. Vo Nguyen Giap.
Eventually, McCain signed a letter claiming to be a war criminal and apologizing for the U.S. involvement in Vietnam. He also did many radio and television interviews, some with foreign correspondents which is a severe violation of the military code of conduct.
Despite John McCain's years of painful torture at the hands of the NVA, he has been Hanoi's strongest advocate in the U.S. Senate. For years, he pushed for the normalization of relations with communist Vietnam, even though that country has never fully cooperated on the issue of American POW's.
In 1992, John McCain was serving on the Senate Select Committee on POW/MIA Affairs. Vietnamese officials began to complain that American POW/MIA activists (mostly family members of the missing men) were causing too many problems and posed a threat to lifting the U.S. trade embargo on Vietnam. Incredibly, Senator and former POW McCain then went on a campaign against the POW/MIA activists and accused them of fraud. McCain once said of the families: "The people who have done these things are not zealots in a good cause. They are criminals and some of the most craven, most cynical, and most despicable human beings to ever run a scam."
Sen. McCain demanded and received a U.S. Justice Department investigation of the two major POW/MIA activist groups. Of course, no fraud, as McCain alleged, was ever found. The families were left angry and mystified as to why McCain had betrayed them. McCain succeeded and the trade embargo against communist Vietnam was lifted, and there has never been a full accounting of North Vietnamese atrocities against American POWs.
In 1992, NVA Col. Bui Tin, who interrogated McCain in the Hanoi Hilton, testified before the Senate Select Committee on POW/MIA Affairs. He told the Senators (including McCain) that Soviet officers regularly interrogated and tortured American POW's. During a break in the proceedings, Sen. McCain and Col. Tin enjoyed a hug and exchanged the kind of longing looks that a man would usually share with his long-lost father, or perhaps in McCain's case...His comrade?
Just as John McCain has collaborated with the Vietnamese enemy, he has collaborated with the leaders of the Mexican Reconquista movement for some time. Among other outrages, he has spoken at the annual conference of the National Council of La Raza for the last several years.
As one of the keynote speakers at the 2004 conference, he told the zealous crowd: "It is in our national interest to bring the 8 to 12 million undocumented immigrants out of the shadows and allow them an opportunity to become citizens of this great nation."
After the massive illegal alien protests in 2006, McCain made the following statement: "If such demonstrations continue, I think we will have a bill for the President to sign soon. The more debate, the more demonstrations, the more likely we will prevail."
Under Sen. McCain's immigration bill, even members of Mexican drug gangs would have received amnesty by simply signing a statement in which they renounce their gang affiliation. The so-called 'background checks' that illegal aliens would have been given were only of the 24-hour variety, which reveal very little, if anything and would then be given a six-month worker card. Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents would have traveled around the country handing-out amnesty applications to suspected illegal aliens, and all immigration enforcement would have ended.
McCain's plan would spell the end of United States sovereignty. So why would the son and grandson of fiercely proud American warriors, and he himself a combat veteran who suffered tremendous torture at the hands of the criminal North Vietnamese so readily come to the aid of that enemy and attack the families of the men with whom he served? Why would this same man so incredibly betray his own country by granting amnesty to those who sneak into this country´s back door, when so many are waiting to enter America through the front door?
The answers to the aforementioned questions lie deep with Sen. McCain's psyche, which should now be subject to examination. I am not suggesting that McCain set out to betray his country when he began his career at the U.S. Naval Academy in 1954, nor as he flew 23 missions over North Vietnam. However, it would appear that under extreme torture and indoctrination at the hands of his communist captors, he may have been turned...Turned against his own country and sent back to dismantle that country. It is a possibility that needs to be investigated.
When someone with the background of Sen. John McCain is ready to sell-out his fellow POW's and turn the United States into a Third World nation...No other explanation could truly suffice.
You mean ‘Oh, sorry. I attributed a quote to you that wasn’t yours’? Thank you, I think.
SJB—thanks.
I was wondering where the memorial page for Arlen Spector was.
The french company is Airbus and the 18% unemployment stat is the real unemployment number including those who have stopped looking for a job. Before you say that the french are going to assemble the plane is Mississippi, remember it is still a french designed plane with their parts and it makes us dependent on them for future repairs etc. The french get to build their corporation and keep the profits at the expense of Boeing.
You have been here long enough to know that this is just a copout.
Is the information true, or is it not?
Thanks for the background. I knew JD was cleared of the ridiculous charges re: Abramoff.
McCain knows that the recipient of the greatest amount of Abramoff’s money was none other than Harry Reid.
But he goes after his fellow Arizonian.
Another reason why McCain so deserves to be retired.
I’ve already stated that I don’t think it is and I’m not interested in defending McCain from anything except slanderous attacks. This two-bit columnist is free to write anything he wants without recrimination since his subject is a public figure. This is my last word on this disgraceful thread.
I want to see John McCain defeated in the primary and retired from the US Senate. I can’t vote for JD Hayworth, but I am donating to his campaign.
Anything else you want to say? Don't hold back, now. There are more FreeRepublic rules that you can break, I'm sure.
Me, I know I am legitimate. You can call me the same if you'd like, but that doesn't change the fact that McCain has consistently tried to cover up what happened to those we left behind in Vietnam--good men who deserved the same chance to come home that McCain had.
I’m for Hayworth also.
But I disagree that this thread is disgraceful.
The information submitted on this thread points to McCain, after his return home, as being disgraceful.
At that, I’ll bother you no more on this topic.
Hard to look at, wasn’t it?
Felt like I needed a bath.
Can’t believe these folks are PROUD to be Progressive Republicans.
We’ll have to work with the GOP for 2010 to neuter Obama by removing the Dem majorities from both houses of COngress.
After that, I’m not so sure.
Hard to be sure of anything, these days ;-)
“John McCain is just the Republican version of Obama — a wanna-be dictator piece of despotic traitorous garbage. “
Exactly.
Tens of thousands are killed or seriously injured in car accidents by drivers who are drunk or on drugs each year.
Just another area of huge deaths
When are those who keep data on all things death
will fight for a law that demands drunk or high drivers
who kill rather than receive a few years and return to do the same again, be put to death.
What they do is the same as though they shot the person.
Here is another set of tens of thousands of deaths a year
and at huge expense for medical, legal at tax payers usually, etc.
You might want to use this one also on death and expense.
I often have to post in simple language as many on these threads have the intellect of a 12 year old.
Having ret. from the Legal field with the County Attorneys
I find many on FR don’t understand legal language or legal ramifications.
I often make post simple for the simple minded to understand.
This is pretty low.
Hayworth supported McCain back in 2000 when he ran for President.
Thanks for that link. I had to fight myself over the idea that that website was a satire. It was difficult to accept that Progressives are that entrenched and that bold. I’ll say one thing for them; they are well organized and firmly committed to their goals.
The author of the article, Dave Gibson, has no legitimate credentials. In fact, neither do you.
So it is OK to defame a decorated Vietnam war hero like John Kerry but not John McCain? So much for your integrity.
My hatred of McCain stems from his perfidy in deliberately not getting at the truth about the fate of his fellow POW/MIAs from Vietnam, as well as his failed election attempt in 2008. Thanks to him and his dive last year for Obama, a fraud is now President of the United States. In between you can add McCain-Kennedy amnesty, McCain-Feingold, and a host of other bad legislation with his so-called friends on the other side of the aisle.
However, there is no justification to berate him on anything relating to RVN.
Really? How many times have I said on this thread that I am not judging this man on what happened to him during his captivity. It is what has happened since that is so disgraceful, unprecedented, unwarranted and inexcusable. So, since it relates to the Vietnam War, I would say that there is plenty of justification to berate McCain on his Vietnam related actions.
The author of the article, Dave Gibson, has no legitimate credentials. In fact, neither do you.
And what credentials are legitinmate in your eyes? And how many articles have you written. I have never claimed any credentials, but I have been here over 11 years, so my positions can be easily ascertained.However, you have no knowledge about whether I have legitimate credentials in any field, so stop talking out of your hat.
Your screen name is another word for "truth"--try living up to it.
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