Posted on 01/24/2010 7:51:38 AM PST by Kartographer
You’re so right. Summer of ‘08 canning was surging in popularity...couldn’t find jars anywhere after around May. Summer of ‘09 they were everywhere.
I have supplies and skills, hubs is a mechanical whiz. Son is 10 and knows everything (sigh) but there are glimmers of hope. LOL
We homeschool, and I try to have curriculum and appropriate materials for up to 2 years ahead as well.
Preparedness has helped us through rough times as well.
I need to fina a good book on wild edibles like maine said. I am also buying non-hybrid heirloom seeds and learning how to save them from the fruit.
Side Note: I checked ebay and suture kits and such items are plentiful and inexpensive. Especially helpful if you have experience with them.
I got mine from Amazon. Now all I have to do is come up with some liquid Lidocaine...
You mean inedible! uneatable? lol
Ya, that too! LOL
Families with adults might be able to hold them out ... of over running a person and stealing what ever they can find.
I do believe in being prepared. What it may take is a bunker or a cave hidden some where somehow. Things will quickly deteriorate. I pray I am too pessimistic.
God help us in our day, in Jesus name, amen.
You raise an excellent point, and for many this is the crux of the matter: We exist in a society and culture that values "feelings" over hard decisions. We are gregarious animals that think of ouselves relative to those around us, and not in a vacuum.
The idea that in a time of crisis we may have to turn away those in need is repulsive and horrifying (and indeed, goes counter to all that we have been programmed to believe the last 50 years by our liberal culture), but to simply stick your head in the sand and ignore this horriying concept(like my wife, for instance) does a disservice to everyone you love. This is because someday, the food that feeds your neighbors must be snatched from the hand of your child, and vice versa.
No one knows exactly what the future holds, but to mull over this philosophical point before it becomes a reality is very important, and may be the key to your survival in the Coming Hard Times.
I went through my entire family and made a mental list of the relatives I am willing to take in. Out of my side of the family, the answer is ZERO. They are Obama voters, and even their children are polluted by poor parenting and have bad attitudes/are obstinate. On my wifes side there are 3: My nieces, who are old enough and resposible enough to carry out simple tasks without supervision, and may theoreticaly bring a high dowry in the future (toeheads, yay!). All my/my wife's other family members are on their own, as I cannot support them and my own family without some of us dying, and I will not accept anyone into my home who is not willing to obey me. I explained this to my wife, and it made her cry.
Thanks for the ping - in my opinion, anytime you see a storage type thread, ping the HS list! We’re a homeschooling food storing family. :) I too miss Appleseed, was on his survival list and noticed a couple months ago he stopped posting, wondered why.
My wifes family is over 2,000 miles away from us. In a SHTF scenario that might as well be the far side of the moon.
Now 'friends', they're another story. If I had a nickel for every time a 'friend' said "If things ever go to sh* I'm coming here." meaning my place.
I've responded that they damn well better not show up empty handed or I'll show them the highway the same way I would any stranger. I told them I'm not going to do for them what they should have been doing for themselves.
A couple of them have wised up and started making their own preparations. One guy actually said he'd have to re-evaluate our relationship. "Fine" was all I said.
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This depends on your needs of course, but what I've done is every time one of us goes the doctor and gets a refill of an Rx, we ask for a sample. The pharmacy drug pushers are always leaving samples and I've never yet been turned down by the doctor.
Then we rotate the sample into the daily meds and set aside an equal amount of the newest regular Rx. Refill the Rx the next time around and do it again. I've been able to build up a 90 day emergency supply of all our Rx by doing that for a couple years. I just rotate the pills the way I do canned goods so the emergency stash is always up to date.
folks like this would do better to simply reevaluate THEMSELVES and their refusal to take responsibility for their lives. Your (soon-to-be-former) friend is using emotions to guide his behavior, and that is never a good thing unless you are a chick shopping for shoes.
For most of us it is a big wake up when a former friend exposes himself as an utter flake who refuses to man up and do the right thing. I take solace that these are not the caliber of folks I want around me in a crisis anyways.
No doubt. And I haven't seen that person in almost 6 months. I did manage to get 2 other ones to 'see the light' as it were.
So I lost one but brought two on board. Not bad when you think about it.
Thanks for the ping and the info!
You don't. You just don't. She won't hear it, you were justified, and he won't care.
An extra 20lb sack of rice (200 servings) doesn’t cost much nor takes much space.
But for heavens’ sake, store it airtight. We brought home hundreds of little visitors in a bag from Sam’s. $100 and 4 trips from the exterminator and they’re finally all gone. I also freeze some stuff for a couple days before storage.
My wife was also sad when I told her the only people we will take in is my defenseless grand-children. She said okay (self-preservation is the quite the motivator). She often asks if the 12 gauge is ready...am I lucky or what?
I have repeatedly told her grown daughter and my (2) grown children they should be prepared, especially with weapons. However, they would rather spend their limited finances on playing, eating out, big-screens, etc. I tried, but they say I'm paranoid. May be, but when some low-life tries a home invasion...or if the big Cali quake happens...or if society falls apart for any other reason, they will be on their own.
Nitro-Pak is one of the best survival sites on the Web. If you don't want to deal with cannning, rotate beans and rice, and have the money...check out Mountain House freezed dried food that has a 30 year life shelf. We have a year supply. Don't come knocking...you will be looking down the barrel of a Remington 00 shotgun.
I will continue to research the matter and you may want to as well, and we can share what we learn. Here is a link to Executive Order 10998.
It also looks as if the State Ordnances are more of a Health and Safety issue, and not a hording of food in general.
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