What Might Steorn's 'Free Energy' Technology Mean?

FreeEnergyTimes ^ | Jan 8, 2010 | Freeenergytimes

[wolf78]

I bet if someone did actually come up with ZPE or whatever, the people whose heads would explode most would be the Luddites on the Left who don’t want people to have cheap abundant energy.

Well, there are plenty of other contenders, from solar power to nuclear fusion. All these technologies have to overcome three hurdles:

I. Proof of concept: You have to demonstrate that the physics actually work.

II. Engineering prototype: You have to show that you can actually build it in the right size.

III. Commercial viability: You have to prove that it's economically feasible.

Accordingly there are four categories:

1. Available and competitive products.
2. Solutions that are available on the market, but where the economics don't work out yet (Which can change, but is not guaranteed to do so).
3. Things that in principle can be built but first you have to overcome serious engineering challenges (e.g. exotic new materials). Even these products often don't make it to the market, think nuclear powered aircraft.
4. Things that don't work because they are based on a principle that flies in the face of physics.

The Hoover Dam falls into category 1. Solar power would be category 2. Hydrogen Fusion is category 3. Steorn Orbo is category 4 (because a.) Zero Point energy is quite useless as an energy source and b.) even if it weren't you couldn't harness it with such a simple contraption).

[Normandy]

Steorn hasn’t said that their technology taps ZPE. They don’t explain why it works, just that it does — and they say that it can do useful work.

[wolf78]

Steorn hasn’t said that their technology taps ZPE. They don’t explain why it works, just that it does — and they say that it can do useful work.

Sorry for the mix-up. But it doesn't matter. My point is: Either the Orbo is some kind of perpetuum mobile (there have been countless designs, be it purely mechanical or using electrical parts), then it doesn't work because of the law of conservation of energy. Or it claims to harness some kind of exotic form of energy. Given that e.g. to harness fusion power you need a $15 billion, 100 feet high machine, it is highly unlikely that you can do that with a bit of plastic and a few wires. Bluntly speaking: It's a scam, get over it.

I will gladly - to quote Jeremy Clarkson - eat my hair if I'm wrong. But I'm not. You want to believe, that's your right and choice. But there are better things to believe in, e.g. cheap solar power or nuclear fusion, because they actually have a chance of working out in the long run.

[Normandy]

No problem :) I’m going to watch what happens in Dublin over the next few weeks and see what transpires. There’s a live webstreamed public demonstration/experiment scheduled for 5:00 GMT tomorrow that might shed some more light on their technology. Best to you!

[PLMerite]

I was asleep. How did the live webstream demo go ?

[Normandy]

I thought it went very well. It was more in depth than the previous experiment and I think they did a good job in demonstrating that the Orbo motor cancelled Counter Electromotive force (CEMF). There was a very interesting Q&A session following the experiment where Sean McCarthy dealt with quite a lot of skeptical questions.

He stressed that this demo was aimed at interesting engineers and potential developers - not so much in convincing the public at large.

They haven’t posted the video of the event yet - I expect it will up on their website tonight or tomorrow.

[Normandy]

The videos from yesterday’s experiment at Steorn have now been posted. You can see them here:

http://www.freeenergytimes.com/?p=346

[Elsie]

They have managed to harness the infinite resource of human gullibility.

FINALLY!!

Some place for me to buy stock in an up and coming company!

[Elsie]

"free, clean and constant energy at the point of use"

HMMmm...

I think I've already GOT that at my house!