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To: rwfromkansas
Isn’t the idea that the customer pays the salary of the worker a little absurd?

In all businesses the customer pays the salary of the employees- the money just doesn't spring out of no where. As I stated to another poster, waiting is like working on commission, except, instead of the commission being decided by some manager figuring out his profit margin, you as a consumer can determine the value and compensate accordingly.

If you go and buy a $50k car, you are paying the sales person probably around $5k in commission whether he treats you well or poorly. Tipping allows you to set the rate of what you think the value of service is.

86 posted on 01/07/2010 10:28:10 AM PST by mnehring
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To: mnehring
I don't look at tips as part of the pay of the wait staff - that's between him and his boss. The tip is a gift. There's no reason I can find that a waiter should pay income taxes on my gift to them. My kids don't declare Grammy's $40 gifts or Pop-Pop's $50. I didn't declare my the value of my wedding gifts.

Tough $h!+ if the government wants a bite.

141 posted on 01/07/2010 10:58:23 AM PST by Sgt_Schultze (A half-truth is a complete lie)
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To: mnehring

Tipping is a holdover from the way restaurants used to run in the late 19th and into the 20th Century. They way it used to work was that the waiter was an independent contractor, and when you ordered your food, it was actually the waiter who was buying it from the restaurant operator, paying for it up front at the exact same cost printed on the menu. Tips were the entire way they made money. Slowly, the practice was introduced of making waiters an actual employee of the restaurant and, later, of giving them a small token wage. I can still remember in the early 80s, the waiters at the Berghoff, in Chicago, lining up at a cash register to pay for the food before bringing it to your table.


149 posted on 01/07/2010 11:03:06 AM PST by Bubba Ho-Tep ("More weight!"--Giles Corey)
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To: mnehring

That’s a good point....that this really is a service and a way of judging that. I certainly thought of it that way, but understand more now about the rationale for tipping and why it is different from the cashier etc.

The cashier doesn’t serve me, just check me out etc.

Thus, they aren’t quite comparable.

But, it still bothers me we are elevating one group of people over another.

Doesn’t mean I won’t tip though. I always do unless it is just flat terrible service (unfortunately happens more often that it used to since I moved to Texas where everybody leaves to go into the oil field).


164 posted on 01/07/2010 11:09:46 AM PST by rwfromkansas ("Carve your name on hearts, not marble." - C.H. Spurgeon)
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