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To: tired_old_conservative
No its no mystery, Hawaii Homelands changed their requirement in June 2009 and long form certificates were still easily available them. They still are to the named individual through UIPA, you are entitled to a copy of any of your records held by the state that is not excepted and BC’s are not excepted to the named individual. They may not be readily available through website order but you they can request them under UIPA. So why did Hawaii make the change in June 2009? Logic says its a cover-up and no other reason makes sense. Why won't DOH explain the difference between date Accepted and Date Filed? What are they hiding? Shouldn't that be clearly public information? You maybe fooled and can try and fool others, but count me out. You are a shill.

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286 posted on 01/06/2010 1:41:06 PM PST by rolling_stone (no more bailouts, the taxpayers are out of money!)
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To: rolling_stone
Un, it's called the march of progress in a capitalistic society. or something like that. I think Reagan used to talk about such things.

“Long forms

Sample of a long form birth certificateLong forms, also known as certified photocopies, book copies, and photostat copies, are exact photocopies of the original birth record that was prepared by the hospital or attending physician at the time of the child's birth. The long form usually includes parents’ information (address of residence, race, birth place, date of birth, etc.), additional information on the child's birthplace, and information on the doctors who assisted in the birth of the child. The long form also usually includes the signature of the doctor involved and at least one of the parents.

Long forms may become obsolete in years to come, as many states have begun to use Electronic Birth Registration systems. The use of these systems will enable information typically seen on certified copies (long forms) to be available in computer databases that typically issue short form certificates, thus eliminating the need for “hard copy” long form certificates and having all birth information stored in computer databases only. This benefits parents in many ways; registration can be completed via computer at the hospital, meaning that parents can stop by their Vital Statistics office on the way home from the hospital to purchase the birth certificate instantly. It also means that the extra cost for long form certificates will no longer be a factor.

Short forms

Sample of a short form birth certificate (certification of birth)Short forms, known sometimes as computer certifications, are not universally available, but are cheaper than photocopies and much more easily accessible. Information is taken from the original birth record (the long form) and stored in a database that can be accessed quickly when birth certificates are needed in a short amount of time. Whereas the long form is a copy of the actual birth certificate, a short form is a document that certifies the existence of such certificate, and is given a title such as “Certification of Birth”, “Certification of Live Birth”, or “Certificate of Birth Registration”. The short form typically includes the child's name, date of birth, sex, and place of birth, although some also include the names of the child's parents. When the certification does include the names of the parents, it can be used in lieu of a long form birth certificate in almost all circumstances. Nearly all states in the U.S. issue short forms certifications, on both state and local levels.”

But, yeah, despite the fact that Hawaii went paperless in 2001, they specifically changed everything they do in June of 2009 to protect their nefarious state-wide conspiracy over Obama’s birth. That's so much more logical and straight forward than simply accepting Obama was born in Hawaii like the state says.

295 posted on 01/06/2010 1:56:53 PM PST by tired_old_conservative
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