Why does federal law use the term "citizens at birth" and some Supreme Court decisions use the same term while others use "citizen by birt"? It's all irrelevant, the Constitution identifes two specific forms of citizenship - natural born and naturalized. If you are not one then you are the other. "Native born" or "natural born", "citizen at birth" or "citizen by birth", they're all different terms for the same thing.
OMG!! Once again are you seriously STILL missing the point or do you really not get that being potus is not simply a matter of birthplace but also citizenship???
Do you not get the difference??
Chief Justice Waite (in Minor v. Happersett) takes the liberty to use the terms interchangeably.
I just thought it odd that fight the smears would use the more obscure term, Native born; rather than the well known one, Natural born
. ... the Constitution identifies two specific forms of citizenship - natural born and naturalized.
Yes, and you also believe that Obama is a Natural/Native Born Citizen -- even though he admits his father was a foreign national.
Correct?
The same Chief Justice Waite (in Minor v. Happersett)indicates that the above stance is worthy of doubt, as follows:
In Minor v. Happersett Chief Justice Waite delivered the opinion of the court, which included a definition of natural-born citizens based on the common-law:
“The Constitution does not, in words, say who shall be natural-born citizens. Resort must be had elsewhere to ascertain that. At common-law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children born in a country of parents{PLURAL} who were its citizens{PLURAL}became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives, or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners. Some authorities go further and include as citizens children born within the jurisdiction without reference to the citizenship of their parents. As to this class there have been DOUBTS but never as to the first. For the purposes of this case it is not necessary to solve these DOUBTS. It is sufficient for everything we have now to consider that all children born of citizen parents within the jurisdiction are themselves citizens.
(emphases mine)
It would seem that if Chief Justice Waite were on this forum he would be called a "birther" for indicating that such a birth as Obama's is fraught with doubt as to his (Obama's)Natural/Native Born status.
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