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To: FARS; AdmSmith; Berosus; bigheadfred; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; ...
Mousavi for the first time actually discounts his own influence and that of Mehdi Karroubi. He admits that even though people asked him to call for protests or at least lend his support, he did not do so in the case of Ashura. He also acknowledges the fact that people came out without him calling them to come out... The Green Movement has indeed partially spiraled out of the hands of Karroubi and Mousavi... acknowledges it by saying that he is ready to die alongside other members of the movement, knowing that the movement would continue even with his absence... Mousavi openly speaks out against the IRGC. It is no secret that the IRGC has been one the driving forces behind the suppression of peaceful protesters and the main source of Ali Khamenei and Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's power. Along the Basij -- which falls under its command -- they have been responsible for most of the bloodshed on the streets of Iran during protests. He ridicules the IRGC, possibly sending a message to his supporters that they can now openly denounce the IRGC as well as Basij.
Thanks nuconvert.
4 posted on 01/03/2010 4:06:46 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Happy New Year!)
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To: SunkenCiv; All; Spunky; ~Kim4VRWC's~; 1035rep; 2ndDivisionVet; 4woodenboats; 5Madman2; ...

Considerations for this statement:

1. Moussavi and Karroubi do NOT want a regime change, they want a managment change. Moussavi, Karroubi, Khatami and opposition financier (like Soros in the USA) is Rafsanjani.

They are all at risk if the regime changes, so are back-pedalling, now that the change from Khamenei and Ahmadi-Nejad has become an anti-Mullah regime movement.

Moussavi, former regime founder Khomeini Prime Minister and in office when thousands were murdered at the regime’s orders -

Karroubi twice speaker of the Majliss (”parliament”) -

Khatami, twice Islamic Regime President, ineffectual reformer who brought students into the streeets in support and the let them be claughtered -

Rafsanjani, former Regime President, known for using hit squads to assassinate dissidents who had managed to flee Iran -

cannot disassociate themselves from regime blood letting and suppression of freedoms.

2. With the attack by the regime on ayatollah Dastghayb in Isfahan, burning his office, stoning the mosque at which he “preaches”, the cleric on cleric conflict coming into the open also puts the opposition “icons” in danger of being next:

a) by the regime
b) by anti-regime hardliners.

3. Increasingly pronounced reports of the regime intending to arrest Moussavi and Karroubi, forcing the former to ingest a cyanide pill to murder him while in custody and putting Karroubi on trial also enters into this statement almost as an appeal not to carry this out as “it would serve no purpose”.

Groundwork to areest and execute afsanjani, still too powerful to touch with impunity has been laid by “defrocking” him as an ayatollah and removing the only obstacle to hanging him. (Supposing they obey the law ina self-serving way when the Islamic regime falls)

4. Discrediting the IRGC (Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps) serves two purposes:

a) Weakening the strength of Khamenei, Ahmadi-Nejad and IRGC top officers (lower echelons seem to be gradually swinging over to supporting the opposition

b) Getting on the right side of the issue when the IRGC receives (some have arrived, the rest on their way) huge, Chinese crowd control trucks (photos on the Internet) which apart from the usual various gases, boiling water, freezing water that can be poured onto crowds from large tanks on the vehicles ALSO deployees an almost indelible red dye.

This will mark and identify them when they show up at work. To be fired or arrested. The dye stays fast for weeks or months. Also ruins clothes which in a generally impoverished populace is a major consideration, speically shoes.

Perhaps the Green movement will become a “red” movement where people will wear red stained clothes and skin as a badge of honor. Hopefully not Communist red.

Alan (at AntiMullah) got asked about the “red gas” in the trucks and initially thought it was red pepper (caparcecin) but then tracked it down to red dye.

These are multi-option vehicles so it’s hard to try to cover all their options/capabilities.

I’m sure everyone can think of other points along the lines above.


5 posted on 01/03/2010 6:22:23 PM PST by FARS (Be well, be happy and THRIVE! Happy New Year.)
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To: SunkenCiv; All; Spunky; ~Kim4VRWC's~; 1035rep; 2ndDivisionVet; 4woodenboats; 5Madman2; ...

Considerations for this statement:

1. Moussavi and Karroubi do NOT want a regime change, they want a managment change. Moussavi, Karroubi, Khatami and opposition financier (like Soros in the USA) is Rafsanjani.

They are all at risk if the regime changes, so are back-pedalling, now that the change from Khamenei and Ahmadi-Nejad has become an anti-Mullah regime movement.

Moussavi, former regime founder Khomeini Prime Minister and in office when thousands were murdered at the regime’s orders -

Karroubi twice speaker of the Majliss (”parliament”) -

Khatami, twice Islamic Regime President, ineffectual reformer who brought students into the streeets in support and the let them be claughtered -

Rafsanjani, former Regime President, known for using hit squads to assassinate dissidents who had managed to flee Iran -

cannot disassociate themselves from regime blood letting and suppression of freedoms.

2. With the attack by the regime on ayatollah Dastghayb in Isfahan, burning his office, stoning the mosque at which he “preaches”, the cleric on cleric conflict coming into the open also puts the opposition “icons” in danger of being next:

a) by the regime
b) by anti-regime hardliners.

3. Increasingly pronounced reports of the regime intending to arrest Moussavi and Karroubi, forcing the former to ingest a cyanide pill to murder him while in custody and putting Karroubi on trial also enters into this statement almost as an appeal not to carry this out as “it would serve no purpose”.

Groundwork to areest and execute afsanjani, still too powerful to touch with impunity has been laid by “defrocking” him as an ayatollah and removing the only obstacle to hanging him. (Supposing they obey the law ina self-serving way when the Islamic regime falls)

4. Discrediting the IRGC (Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps) serves two purposes:

a) Weakening the strength of Khamenei, Ahmadi-Nejad and IRGC top officers (lower echelons seem to be gradually swinging over to supporting the opposition

b) Getting on the right side of the issue when the IRGC receives (some have arrived, the rest on their way) huge, Chinese crowd control trucks (photos on the Internet) which apart from the usual various gases, boiling water, freezing water that can be poured onto crowds from large tanks on the vehicles ALSO deployees an almost indelible red dye.

This will mark and identify them when they show up at work. To be fired or arrested. The dye stays fast for weeks or months. Also ruins clothes which in a generally impoverished populace is a major consideration, speically shoes.

Perhaps the Green movement will become a “red” movement where people will wear red stained clothes and skin as a badge of honor. Hopefully not Communist red.

Alan (at AntiMullah) got asked about the “red gas” in the trucks and initially thought it was red pepper (caparcecin) but then tracked it down to red dye.

These are multi-option vehicles so it’s hard to try to cover all their options/capabilities.

I’m sure everyone can think of other points along the lines above.


6 posted on 01/03/2010 6:23:12 PM PST by FARS (Be well, be happy and THRIVE! Happy New Year.)
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