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To: truthfreedom
Great post. There is incongruousness in his reasoning and logic, which you indirectly pegged.

As I mentioned, early on I thought Ron Paul was someone I could support (esp. fiscal and monetary matters), yet the more I learned about his shocking sentiments and feelings regarding September 11, national security / and his apparent nonchalance about our sovereignty, I became more wary and alarmed.

36 posted on 12/29/2009 9:56:24 PM PST by Mengerian
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To: Mengerian

I have read many of Paul’s own comments, his you tubes and
sites.
Have also talked face to face with many of his supporters.

The views are NeoLeft as I mentioned earlier.
This is why so many 9/11 Truthers back him.
His anti war, we drove the Muslims to do this,
His “American Imperialism” rants, anti Israel.

His son who is runing for the senate in KY is no different.
He has a bit of a different spin to get Republican votes
but his son’s views are the same.
All loons.


37 posted on 12/29/2009 10:13:58 PM PST by SoCalPol (Reagan Republican for Palin 2012)
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To: Mengerian

I do not for one split second believe that Ron Paul is nonchalant about our sovereignty.

Safety, maybe. Security, maybe. There are reasonable arguments on both sides. Ron Paul believes strongly in sovereignty. Our sovereignty, and also the sovereignty of other countries. It might not increase our safety to respect the sovereignty of other nations, it might not increase our security to respect the sovereignty of other nations, but Ron Paul wouldn’t do something to allow another country to bomb us and then say “what are you complaining about, you violated the sovereignty of many other nations. We’re just doing to you what you did to many other countries.”

But, people here are unlikely to understand that argument. If people in other countries are considered crazy for disliking being attacked by cruise missiles, and crazy for doing something in retaliation, (that is the argument that is called “blaming the US”) I assume that other countries wouldn’t be considered merely returning the favor if they decide that some people here in the US were doing something that they could stop by lobbing in a few cruise missiles.

Here’s a little quiz - A) or B)?
A) People in foreign countries like it when the US fires cruise missiles into their country, killing their people.
B) People in foreign countries do not like it when the US fires cruise missles into their country, killing their people.

I haven’t been to many foreign countries. I don’t really know what people in foreign countries think. I’m really just guessing here. But, and this is critical. B) is often true. Not just A). Sure, there are obviously a lot of people who are just waiting around hoping we’d just hurry up and get over to their country with our kick-ass cruise missiles and kill them, but, there are some people (we call them crazy) who believe B). They do not like it when we kill their countrymen with cruise missiles.

My recommendation to Republicans, Democrats, people here on FR and people anywhere else is to recognize that there are people in both group A - those who like seeing their countrymen killed by the US and group B - those who do not like seeing their countrymen killed by the US.


40 posted on 12/29/2009 11:20:43 PM PST by truthfreedom
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