[Sofia]

Crack a history book sometime. If you don't think the south seceded as a direct response to Lincoln's election, you're really in need of it.

Simply put, had Breckinridge won in 1860, no southern state would have left.

[gusopol3]

Paul’s argument is that Lincoln dodn’t need to fight a war to save the Union, he just needed to compensate the slave states for the emancipation of the slaves. By the time Lincoln was inaugurated, he didn’t have that choice. In the context of this discussion , everything you have said is irrelevant. Pay attention , newby.