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To: TXnMA; Alamo-Girl
You missed the "power" of my point....

No I didn't; not necessarily. I thought I was just enlarging it, expanding it. :^) Metaphorically, so to speak. The Muse was speaking.... LOL!

I had not, of course, done any of my "homework" on the geneologies of the Framers at that time. I'm tickled to learn that George Washington was a natural-born citizen of the United States of America. And I daresay, so was Benjamin Franklin, John Adams, Thomas Jefferson, and a bunch of the others. :^)

Maybe we need to narrow our search to those who did not have two American citizen parents, and see if any one of those persons ever became president.

I figure: That sort of thing does not happen.

Except for "the exceptions that prove the rule": Chester A. Arthur and BHO.

You wrote:

I agree with you on Arthur. However, IIRC, his "natural born" status was not questioned until after he had served his one term....

Well if that's so, then all I can say is: better late than never!

However, some sources suggest that this issue was publicly topical during his presidency. Jury's still out for me.

You wrote:

If we can determine the birth status of our earliest Presidents, we will have some de facto examples of what "natural born" IS NOT.

Call me a blockhead, but on preliminary findings, I'd say our earliest presidents are de facto examples of exactly what "natural-born" actually, really IS. So how can they show you what it IS NOT?

Jeepers, I must be missing something here.

Thank you so very much, dear brother in Christ, for your scintillating and thought-provocative essay/post!

84 posted on 12/06/2009 10:26:16 PM PST by betty boop (Malevolence wears the false face of honesty. — Tacitus)
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To: betty boop; Alamo-Girl
Ye Texas Septuagenarian(plus) saith: "If we can determine the birth status of our earliest Presidents, we will have some de facto examples of what "natural born" IS NOT."

I was overly optimistic there; should have use the conditional "might" instead of "will".

I failed to take into account how long it took to get around to the Constitution. By that time, most of the prime actors (and their parents) were, indeed, "natural born". That makes me especially curious as to who they were "grandfathering in" -- at that late date...

'Twas worth a look, anyhoot (to paraphrase one or two of my favorite folk...)

;-)

85 posted on 12/06/2009 10:46:29 PM PST by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias...!!)
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