To: betty boop
The Constitution itself nowhere defines natural born. ,
Oh yes it does!
"Natural Born" is declared in Article II [No Person except a 'natural born' Citizen...]
.. and "Natural Born" is implied and expressed in the Constitution as a result of COMMON LAW.
The Common Law in this case goes all the way back to the Magna Carta (over 700 years). "Natural Born" was actually expressed (written) in Vatel's Law of Nations. If you don't know what the Law of Nations said about "natural born" you should. The Founding Fathers did. The Founding Fathers knew exactly what was implied, expressed and common to law when they drafted Article II, the "natural born" eligibility clause.
The Constitution and de Vattels Law of Nations has the answer to any questions regarding citizenship abroad and any laws crossing national boundaries:
EXCERPT 1. U.S. Constitution, Article II, §1: No Person except a natural born Citizen, OR a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President;
EXCERPT 2: de Vattels Law of Nations circa 1758 Book 1, Chapter XIX, § 212: The natives, or NATURAL-BORN CITIZENS, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens
The country of the fathers is therefore that of the children; and these become true citizens merely by their tacit consent.
Finally, the main item in the Constitution that ties both together:
EXCERPT 3: U.S. Constitution, Article I, §8: The Congress shall have Power
To define and punish Piracies and Felonies committed on the high Seas, and Offenses against the LAW OF NATIONS..
LAW OF NATIONS is CAPITALIZED, meaning our framers were citing a proper name. There was only one Law of Nations in 1787 officially declared. And yes, Congress has the power to create and enforce ANY LAW mentioned in the Law of Nations written by Emmerich de Vattel! It was sitting right under our noses the entire time.
"Natural Born" is a "separate" class of citizen for a very important reason. The Founding Fathers wanted to make sure any citizen that served as President owed his allegience, commitment and fiduciary responsibility, FIRST and FOREMOST, to the United States of America, NOT some foreign nation.
§ - Kerchner et al vs. Obama & Congress et al
There exists a possibility that Obama could be an illegal alien.
Obama has yet to adequately prove that he was born in the United States.
Obama has publicly conceded that his father was born in Kenya and a British subject/citizen at the time of Obama's birth which precluded Obama from gaining any U.S. citizenship from his father at the time of his birth.
At the time of his birth in 1961, under the applicable statute Obama also could not gain U.S. citizenship from his U.S. citizen mother due to her being only 18 years old at the time of his birth.
There also exists the possibility that if Obama had U.S. citizenship at birth, he lost that citizenship when his mother's second husband, Lolo Soetoro, an Indonesian citizen, adopted/acknowledged him as his son and along with his mother took him to live in Indonesia and when he later traveled as a foreign citizen with a foreign passport to Pakistan after the age of majority [18] when he was approximately 20.
A child born in wedlock and abroad to one U.S. citizen parent and one alien parent acquires U.S. citizenship at birth under Section 301(g) INA, provided the citizen parent was physically present in the U.S. for the time period required by the law applicable at the time of the child's birth. (For birth on or after November 14, 1986, a period of five years physical presence, two after the age of fourteen is required. For birth between December 24, 1952 and November 13, 1986, a period of ten years, five after the age of fourteen are required for physical presence in the U.S. to transmit U.S. citizenship to the child). Attorney Mario Apuzzo:
Obama's mother, born on November 29, 1942, was 18 years old when she gave birth to Obama on August 4, 1961. She was 117 days short from being 19 years old. But she had to be at least 19 years old (14 years old plus 5 years of U.S. physical presence) to satisfy the legal requirement of Section 301(g). Hence, if Obama was born in Kenya, under the Fourteenth Amendment, he is neither a U.S. citizen by birth on U.S. soil nor one by naturalization. (There is no existing evidence that Obama was ever naturalized.) Nor would he qualify to be a U.S. citizen by any act of Congress by being born abroad to a U.S. citizen parent.
5 posted on
12/05/2009 11:17:57 AM PST by
Man50D
(Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! www.FairTaxNation.com)
To: Man50D; Alamo-Girl
Thank you so much for sharing your research with us, Man50D! Very well done!
11 posted on
12/05/2009 11:22:12 AM PST by
betty boop
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To: Man50D
de Vattels Law of Nations circa 1758 Book 1, Chapter XIX, § 212: The natives, or NATURAL-BORN CITIZENS, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizensExactly.
16 posted on
12/05/2009 11:38:33 AM PST by
bgill
(The framers of the US Constitution established an entire federal government in 18 pages.)
To: Man50D
EXCERPT 2: de Vattels Law of Nations circa 1758 Book 1, Chapter XIX, § 212: The natives, or NATURAL-BORN CITIZENS, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens
The country of the fathers is therefore that of the children; and these become true citizens merely by their tacit consent. Another section of LoN states:
§ 217. Children born in the armies of the state.
For the same reasons also, children born out of the country, in the armies of the state, or in the house of its minister at a foreign court, are reputed born in the country; for a citizen who is absent with his family, on the service of the state, but still dependent on it, and subject to its jurisdiction, cannot be considered as having quitted its territory.
Thus it does not matter where McCain was born, Panama on the Coco Solo naval station in the zone, he is a natural born citizen, since his father (and grandfather) were in the sevice of the state, and subject to its jurisdiction, as Naval Officers.
Obama does not qualify as Natural Born.
113 posted on
12/07/2009 5:07:13 PM PST by
El Gato
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