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To: betty boop; Alamo-Girl; syc1959
I've been working (on and off) on a spreadsheet matrix that depicts all of the likely aspects of US citizenship -- with specific individuals as illustrations of each case I could think of. (I intend to publish it here on FR -- as a HTML Table -- for comment and editorial input when I'm done.)

When you lay it out as an X-Y matrix, is it obvious that there is an amazingly large set of possible combinations...

syc1959, your jurisdiction element certainly needs to be added as another defining condition (column). (ACK! More possible combinations...!)

;-}

BTW, is anyone aware of an American [born] citizen who is the offspring of a foreign [male] diplomat and a U.S. "natural born" wife? (That is the closest analogy of Øbama's situation [assuming he can prove Hawaiian {soil} birth] I have been able to come up with -- so far...)

104 posted on 12/07/2009 12:12:12 PM PST by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias...!!)
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To: betty boop; Alamo-Girl; syc1959
Of course, there is always the possibility that Øbama might expose himself to "embarrassment", and spring a surprise (like FMD or MX) on us as his father (making him "Natural Born" -- even by our definition).

Then, I guess it would be up to us to blazon the fraudulent nature of his books -- and the sealing of his other life documents -- to the U.S. voting public...

105 posted on 12/07/2009 12:29:18 PM PST by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias...!!)
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To: TXnMA; Alamo-Girl
BTW, is anyone aware of an American [born] citizen who is the offspring of a foreign [male] diplomat and a U.S. "natural born" wife?

Simple answer: NO. No example immediately comes to mind. (That doesn't necessarily mean there are NO examples, just that I can't think of one.)

But Barack Hussein Obama SENIOR does not even come close to this description. He was a "foreign-exchange student," not a diplomat.

I hope you will share your "X–Y Matrix" with us when you get it "done," dear brother in Christ! Thank you ever so very much for writing!

106 posted on 12/07/2009 12:37:29 PM PST by betty boop (Malevolence wears the false face of honesty. — Tacitus)
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To: TXnMA; betty boop
BTW, is anyone aware of an American [born] citizen who is the offspring of a foreign [male] diplomat and a U.S. "natural born" wife? (That is the closest analogy of Øbama's situation [assuming he can prove Hawaiian {soil} birth] I have been able to come up with -- so far...)

So far the closest I've found is H.H. Prince Don Agustín de Iturbide y Green. Wikipedia says he was born in Mexico City and died in Washington D.C. But this other article says he was born in Washington, D.C.

I wonder if the difference reflects the very issue of legal domicile which in international law goes to the father?

125 posted on 12/08/2009 11:47:38 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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