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To: DJ MacWoW

If he wasn’t, then there was no need for the Senate to waste time on a silly resolution, that was mainly for show.

John could have cleared up where he was born.

I wonder if there where records, from the military, that would have shown where he was born. /s

I have my BC and I know the Hospital where I was born and if I had to I can prove the hospital. My mom has the hospital record.

I have been asked for identification over the years and my BC many times.


77 posted on 12/05/2009 8:26:50 AM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: Vendome
Yeah. Everybody but the Dems are lying.

Have a nice day.

79 posted on 12/05/2009 8:29:34 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (Make yourselves sheep and the wolves will eat you. Ben Franklin)
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To: Vendome
It sounds like a glitch in a 1936 law was the issue. According to Gabriel J. Chin, University of Arizona Law Professor, the glitch meant McCain was not a natural born citizen:

Senator McCain was born in 1936 in the Canal Zone to U.S. citizen parents. The Canal Zone was territory controlled by the United States, but it was not incorporated into the Union.

As requested by Senator McCain's campaign, distinguished constitutional lawyers Laurence Tribe and Theodore Olson examined the law and issued a detailed opinion offering two reasons that Senator McCain was a natural born citizen. Neither is sound under current law.

The Tribe-Olson Opinion suggests that the Canal Zone, then under exclusive U.S. jurisdiction, may have been covered by the Fourteenth Amendment's grant of citizenship to "all persons born . . . in the United States." However, in the Insular Cases, the Supreme Court held that "unincorporated territories" were not part of the United States for constitutional purposes. Accordingly, many decisions hold that persons born in unincorporated territories are not Fourteenth Amendment citizens.

The Tribe-Olson Opinion also suggests that Senator McCain obtained citizenship by statute. However, the only statute in effect in 1936 did not cover the Canal Zone. Recognizing the gap, in 1937, Congress passed a citizenship law applicable only to the Canal Zone, granting Senator McCain citizenship, but eleven months too late for him to be a citizen at birth.

I don't know anything else about Chin, and I'd be inclined to take Ted Olson's opinion on most things. This is just to understand where the question of McCain's status came from.
103 posted on 12/05/2009 10:10:23 AM PST by sometime lurker
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