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To: metmom
"What you are seeing in these recent posts is spill over from Darwin Central.

If anyone wants to know what it’s like over there, that’s it."


They are so condescending, it is disturbing. They say their beliefs are not fact, yet they say Creationists are loony. I'm not sure they even know what a Creationist is, or an Evolutionist for that matter. Some of their beliefs make a mockery of the most sacred text ever written, and they want us to take some phony science research papers at face value and shut up. Where is the logic in their argument? They play a foolish game of what is the definition of is, and it gets really old quick. I'm glad you confront them, but many of them are simply unable to have a civil conversation.
305 posted on 12/06/2009 7:30:56 AM PST by Jaime2099 (Human Evolution and the God of the Bible are not compatible)
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To: Jaime2099; Gordon Greene; GodGunsGuts; Fichori; tpanther; Ethan Clive Osgoode; betty boop; ...
They say their beliefs are not fact, yet they say Creationists are loony.

I never could figure out why if they don't know what the truth is themselves, that they think they can tell others that they're wrong. In order to determine if something is wrong, you have to know what is true and have a standard that you know is correct, to which to compare things. That's pretty basic science itself.

Some of their beliefs make a mockery of the most sacred text ever written, and they want us to take some phony science research papers at face value and shut up.

Many of them blow off Scripture as just being written by fallible men, without realizing that what they appeal to in research and peer review, is written by fallible men. They have nothing better to offer in that arena either. The same criticisms they level against others apply to themselves. If Scripture is unreliable for that reason, so is their work, exalted peer review notwithstanding.

Where is the logic in their argument?

There is none. They apply a double standard to EVERYTHING and constantly hold others to standards that they don't apply to themselves.

They play a foolish game of what is the definition of is, and it gets really old quick.

There's nothing harder to pin an evolutionist down on than definitions. They move the goalpost constantly and no matter what you bring to the table, it's not good enough because you're not a *real* scientist. Even if you can prove your point by posting links to other scientists who say the same thing, them they're not reliable or *real* scientists.

Then there's the tactic of them demanding that only scientists can correctly define scientific terms *as scientists use them*, and they reject the commonly held, widely used dictionary definitions. They've gone as far as posting their own definitions on FR. Then they can act like a secret little boys club; they snicker and roll their eyes about how stupid and ignorant others are because others don't know what they're talking about.

After demanding the right to define their own terms and tell others that they have no business doing it for them, they then turn around and demand to define everyone else's terms, including religious and theological ones. Well if it's the prerogative of the people within a field to define their own terms, that means that creationists and IDers are to be the ones to define what *creationism* and *ID* mean that they need to accept it and shut up about it.

The funny thing about that is, in so many cases the accusation of not knowing science and not being a real scientist is made by an evolution hobbyist. Some of the most vocal FRevos have neither a degree in science nor work in a scientific field and yet lecture others constantly about that which they know nothing about.

Their position is inconsistent to the core. The games FRevos play. And then they wonder why people aren't sucked into their little games.

308 posted on 12/06/2009 8:28:30 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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