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To: trumandogz; penelopesire; seekthetruth; television is just wrong; jcsjcm; BP2; Pablo Mac; ...

However, there is no reason why this president should have to produce more documentation than the presidents who have preceded him in office.

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That is about one of THE stupidest statements I’ve ever seen here.

Name one president who the public discovered BEFORE his election that he, among many other disturbing issues,

* has a father who was a citizen of a foreign country when he was born (in a direct flaunting of our Constitution and its intent for potus citizenship)

* was born into a maternal family of documented communists and liberal activists

* traveled to Pakistan when there was a war ongoing,
wherein Americans were urged strongly to stay away

* has purposely sealed every bit of past history possible from public knowledge; i.e., college records, scholarships, if any, college theses.

* has been named by Percy Sutton, Malcolm X’s attorney, as being financially supported for his years at Harvard by a Saudi prince

* has personally shown no financial means to pay for the education he received in this country or for his travel to
foreign countries

* has released some records, that have garnered high suspicion as to authenticity

* has NO Columbia college cohorts or friends that can be found, of 400 people that Fox News interviewed

* has paid teams of high powered lawyers nearly $2M to fight lawsuits asking for proof that he is Constitutionally eligible and was to run for and BE in this power office,a critical issue the Founders required to prevent divided national allegiance

* has had his lawyers threaten any plaintiff who wouldn’t back off with severe sanctions for daring to ask the court for rulings on eligibility

* has had his lawyers threaten media networks and journalists when they ask “uncomfortable” questions

* has a past purposely filled with radicals, as he freely
admits he was drawn to; among them, domestic terrorists,
boldly anti-American, Marxist, socialist, anti-Israel,
black theology and Farrakhan Nation of Islam activists

* has compiled an administration filled with the above

SAID THE FOLLOWING :

“The person who made me proudest of all though was my (half-brother), Roy. He was converted to Islam.” (DREAMS OF MY FATHER)

“In Indonesia, I spent two years at a Muslim school. . .I studied the Koran.” (DREAMS OF MY FATHER)

“Lolo (Obama’s stepfather) followed Islam. . .I looked to Lolo for guidance.” (AUDACITY OF HOPE)

” I will stand with them (Muslims) should the political winds of war shift in any ugly direction. . .” (AUDACITY OF HOPE)

“We are no longer just a Christian nation. We are also a Jewish nation, a Muslim nation, a Buddhist nation, a Hindu nation, and a nation of nonbelievers.” (INAUGURAL SPEECH)

* the ‘prettiest sound on earth at sunset’ is the Muslim call to prayer’
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Ping list: feel free to supply other known disturbing issues I may have overlooked at this moment.

I’m SO sick of those who say they’re conservatives and here on the #1 conservative site on the web spouting such obvious ignorance or purposely being a fiend .... conservative WHAT?

Any sincerely right thinking conservative American weeps for what this thing, who’s anti-American naturally and to his core .. it IS 2nd nature to him ... is doing to this country and our brave military and wonders why. Where is he coming from ?

It certainly isn’t from a core American outlook.

When does he show any natural allegiance to America or things American ?

And those of us who’ve been diligently researching him, his family, his and their documentation and pasts, and his affiliations for almost two years KNOW he’s a complete creation, and know just how much of his past is purposely sealed and secreted from view.

Thanks for any pertinent thoughts. God help us all.


130 posted on 11/30/2009 6:39:22 PM PST by STARWISE (They (LIBS-STILL) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war- Richard Miniter)
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To: STARWISE

“other known disturbing issues . . .”

http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=32296

Top 10 Obama Apologies (excerpted from article by Niles Gardiner)

1. Apology to Europe: Speech in Strasbourg, France, April 3. “In America, there’s a failure to appreciate Europe‘s leading role in the world. Instead of celebrating your dynamic union and seeking to partner with you to meet common challenges, there have been times where America has shown arrogance and been dismissive, even derisive.”

2. Apology to the Muslim world: Interview with Al Arabiya, January 27. “My job to the Muslim world is to communicate that the Americans are not your enemy. We sometimes make mistakes. We have not been perfect.”

3. Apology to the Summit of the Americas: Address to the Summit of the Americas, Port of Spain, Trinidad and Tobago, April 17. “While the United States has done much to promote peace and prosperity in the hemisphere, we have at times been disengaged, and at times we sought to dictate our terms.”

4. Apology at the G-20 Summit of World Leaders: News conference in London, April 2. “I just think in a world that is as complex as it is, that it is very important for us to be able to forge partnerships as opposed to simply dictating solutions.”

5. Apology for the War on Terror: Speech in Washington, D.C., May 21. “Unfortunately, faced with an uncertain threat, our government made a series of hasty decisions. I believe that many of these decisions were motivated by a sincere desire to protect the American people. But I also believe that all too often our government made decisions based on fear rather than foresight, that all too often our government trimmed facts and evidence to fit ideological predispositions.”

6. Apology for Guantanamo in France: Speech in Strasbourg, France, April 3. “In dealing with terrorism, we can’t lose sight of our values and who we are. That’s why I closed Guantanamo. That’s why I made very clear that we will not engage in certain interrogation practices. I don’t believe that there is a contradiction between our security and our values. And when you start sacrificing your values, when you lose yourself, then over the long term that will make you less secure.”

7. Apology for America before the Turkish Parliament: Speech to the Turkish Parliament, Ankara, Turkey, April 6. “The United States is still working through some of our own darker periods in our history. Facing the Washington Monument that I spoke of is a memorial of Abraham Lincoln, the man who freed those who were enslaved even after Washington led our Revolution. Our country still struggles with the legacies of slavery and segregation, the past treatment of Native Americans.”

8. Apology for U.S. Policy toward the Americas: Editorial “Choosing a Better Future in the Americas,” April 16. “Too often, the United States has not pursued and sustained engagement with our neighbors. We have been too easily distracted by other priorities, and have failed to see that our own progress is tied directly to progress throughout the Americas.”

9. Apology for the Mistakes of the CIA: Remarks to CIA employees at Langley, Va., April 29. “Don’t be discouraged that we have to acknowledge potentially we’ve made some mistakes.”

10. Apology for Guantanamo: Speech in Washington, D.C., May 21. “There is also no question that Guantanamo set back the moral authority that is America’s strongest currency in the world.”


131 posted on 11/30/2009 7:18:15 PM PST by Faith (By the way---where is that birth certificate?)
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To: STARWISE
feel free to supply other known disturbing issues

"I face this challenge with profound humility and knowledge of my own limitations.
But I also face it with limitless faith in the capacity of the American people …
I am absolutely certain that generations from now, we will be able to look back and tell our children that this was the moment when we began to provide care for the sick and good jobs to the jobless;
this was the moment when the rise of the oceans began to slow and our planet began to heal …
This was the moment – this was the time – when we came together to remake this great nation."
Obama/Soetoro, June 3, 2008

"My friends, we live in the greatest nation in the history of the world. I hope you will join with me as we try to change it."
Barack Obama, aka, Barry Soetoro

"It's not that I want to punish your success," ..."I just want to make sure that everybody who is behind you, that they've got a chance for success too ...
I think when you spread the wealth around, it's good for everybody."
BO aka BS, response to Joe the Plumber on the campaign trail 2008

“We can’t drive our SUVs and eat as much as we want and keep our homes at 72 degrees at all times… and then expect that all other countries are going to say OK.”
BO aka BS

"We have a once in a generation chance to act boldly, to turn adversity into opportunity,
and use this crisis as a chance to transform our economy for the 21st century."
- Barack Hussein Obama, 2/12/2009

137 posted on 11/30/2009 7:57:09 PM PST by Just A Nobody ( (Better Dead than RED! NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA))
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To: STARWISE; LucyT
When does he show any natural allegiance to America or things American ?

He bashes America every chance he gets. He also does NOT respect the pledge of allegiance or the American flag as shown in several photos. The mere fact he's iinvested so much money in preventing anyone and everyone from ever seeing his personal information smacks of something sinister. To date it appears judges are complicit in concealing his documentation and IMHO these judges are traitors to our nation and should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law if somehow, some way, some time this issue is blown wide open and there is lawful revelation of this entire conspiracy between Obama and those who protect his true identity and/or documentation.

It could be as simple as the fraudulent college registration as a foreign student, or something much much more devious. His actions betray truth.

152 posted on 11/30/2009 8:41:36 PM PST by MamaDearest
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To: STARWISE

God help us all if he still will!


169 posted on 11/30/2009 9:58:38 PM PST by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bomb-a administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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To: STARWISE
That is about one of THE stupidest statements I’ve ever seen here.

We will see about that.

has a father who was a citizen of a foreign country when he was born (in a direct flaunting of our Constitution and its intent for potus citizenship)

Could you please point me to the place in the Constitution or any legislation that states that a person must have two US citizen parents in order to be a natural born citizen?

And if the Constitution is so "direct" on this question, why is it that neither John McCain or Sarah Palin referenced Obama's NBC status during the 2008 election?

And why is it that Chief Justice John Roberts, who I assume to be a better legal scholar than most, elected to deliver the Oath of Office to Obama?

was born into a maternal family of documented communists and liberal activists

While that may be true, it does not Constitutionally disqualify a person from being president.

traveled to Pakistan when there was a war ongoing, wherein Americans were urged strongly to stay away

Wow, it was just a few months ago that "birthers" were claiming that it was illegal for Americans to travel to Pakistan in 1981 and now Americans were urged to stay away. What has changed?

As for myself, I have lived, worked in and travelled to at least a dozen countries where there was a State Department travel warning issued. Does that fact make me less of an American and could you point to to the place in the Constitution that prohibits a person who has travelled to a dangerous place from being president?

has purposely sealed every bit of past history possible from public knowledge; i.e., college records, scholarships, if any, college theses.

As you may have read in my previous posts, I would be supportive of any national or state legislation that would require presidential candidates to produce a birth certificate, college transcripts and full medical records prior to their name being placed on a ballot.

Do you support such legislation?

has paid teams of high powered lawyers nearly $2M to fight lawsuits asking for proof that he is Constitutionally eligible and was to run for and BE in this power office,a critical issue the Founders required to prevent divided national allegiance

And that is why I support a system of "Loser Pays" as far as lawsuits are concerned.

Thus if those pursuing the case against Obama prove their allegation in a court of law, President Obama would have to pay all of the plaintiff's and government's legal fees.

And of those pursuing the case against Obama fail to prove their case, those plaintiffs would have to pay the legal fees of Obama and the government.

Are you a conservative that believes in tort reform, including a system of "Loser Pays?"

And while all of you assertions against Obama may be true, none are violations of Article II of the Constitution nor are any what could be considered high crimes or misdemeanors

174 posted on 11/30/2009 11:41:36 PM PST by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: STARWISE

Excellent post! Going in the ‘FReeper Keeper’ file!


185 posted on 12/01/2009 5:53:54 AM PST by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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