Posted on 11/23/2009 4:05:33 PM PST by DecoyJames
Really showing to be a strong candidate! His opponent for the GOP primary used to be a democrat.
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Well, we’re not electing perfect people, we can only go by the best of what is offered (and sometimes that is sorely lacking). I seemed to be more excited about some Republicans when I was in my teens and 20s. Today, in my 30s, I feel more cynical, if not jaundiced, towards so many. Perhaps the best people (Conservative Republicans) that should be running don’t bother because they don’t want themselves and their families anally raped by the media. The vicious attacks on the Palins were also meant as a warning shot against any normal people looking to change our extraordinarily sick and dysfunctional government and society, to scare them out of running.
That email was pretty cheap and petty. Starting off by attacking his name ? Wow. If his middle name were Mohammad or something, maybe... “Trey” is a nickname, that’s not a state secret. He uses his initials, C.M. “Trey” Grayson. I mean, what is the big deal with that ? The rest are the same talking points you already covered. What is the source of that email ?
A Kentucky conservative.
And who is that exactly ?
A private citizen I’m sure you’ve never heard of.
In my opinion, Mr. Grayson’s chosen nickname matters. It is part of the picture I see of a spoiled-brat elitist kid who has always had everything handed to him on a silver platter. Now, admittedly, he could have come a background such as that and through strength of character overcome it. But not much of that seems evident to me. His constant superior sneer repulses me.
You’re entitled to your opinion of the man, I’m entitled to mine.
I’m sorry, EV, but when you’re getting down to stuff like names/nicknames, that’s really scraping the bottom of the barrel for pettiness. I said I’ve got three choices here. Johnson is a non-entity, Rand Paul is a visceral no-go, so that leaves Grayson. I go with the person who has already won statewide twice. You don’t like that reasoning, what can I say ?
BTW, when was that picture with Bubba taken ?
I don’t know. Looks fairly recent, though. It’s obviously not from when Grayson supported him in ‘92. He was just a pup back then.
Like I said before, your credibility is in question, in my opinion, if you ever try to tell me you want to turn the Republican Party back into a conservative party, if you go with the RINO establishment pick because of money or status or whatever, leaving true-blue Reagan conservatives like Bill Johnson standing out in the cold. You've surrendered before the battle has even been engaged.
This constant game of calculation is unfair to real conservatives in KY.
Thankfully, they're the ones who are going to make this decision. Hopefully they won't be short-changed once again by the political bookies.
EV, you’re no strategist, that’s for certain, and you don’t know how the game works (and going around saying, “That’s not how it should happen” won’t change the dynamics. That IS how it happens whether or not you or I like it. I never said I like how it is, I abhor how it is, but it is how it is, and it won’t change for this race no matter how much you try to talk). You can’t be that naive a person and not see this contest is between Grayson and Rand Paul. Your guy is a non-entity. You don’t want to hear that, I’m sorry, but it’s the truth. What I also find troubling is you’ll attack Grayson but won’t go after Paul as ferociously. Paul is a helluva lot more dangerous (with his connections to his father and his supporters) and a total unknown with respect to a public record, trying to buy this race with out of state money.
Hey, if Grayson dropped out, barring the entry of another first-tier Conservative, then I’d endorse your guy. But then how would he overcome the blizzard of Paul’s money ? What about that ? You don’t win races with what you have in your wallet. It takes REAL money.
Bullhockey. You don't know what you're talking about.
I know strategy just fine. I'm just not a political bookmaker. I'm going to find a fully-vetted true Reaganite conservative, the individual I consider to be the best person for the job, and support them with all I have.
and you don’t know how the game works
I know exactly how it works. And it's "the game" that is destroying our country, friend.
I consider this particular race to be more than anything else a test...of the sincerity of conservative Republicans who say they care about "saving" their party for conservatism.
It's got it all:
A liberal Democrat who will emerge from their process.
A Democrat with an R by his name as the establishment Republican pick.
A faux-federalist, pro-choice for states, isolationist Libertarian.
And a real straight up the line Reagan conservative.
Choose carefully. The fate of your party, and far more importantly your country, may ride on your decision.
Not one post in this thread have you criticized Paul as you’ve done so against Grayson.
And that person happens to be a complete non-entity with no political experience whatsoever (nevermind no money).
"Choose carefully. The fate of your party, and far more importantly your country, may ride on your decision."
I picked Grayson. If he's a bum in the Senate, we get rid of him. But I'm not going to piss this seat away otherwise. BTW, who have you endorsed in the NH Senate race now that Ayotte is unacceptable to you ?
Guess you missed that.
Funny how such a "non-entity" seems to be the only one in the race who actually understands what ails the republic, and what conservatism is.
I haven’t made any endorsements in NH.
Your main attacks are against Grayson by name (and on his name). A one-sentence comment where you don’t even say P-a-u-l ain’t much of a criticism.
That’s great. Too bad that and a $1.50 won’t get him a cup of coffee at Starbucks (nor a United States Senate seat).
Baloney. My “main attacks” on Grayson are that he was the leader of the Democrats at Harvard, a supporter of Bill Clinton, he’s associated himself with Van Jones and his “climate change” scam, giving the keynote speech at one of his KY events, and was politically trained up and raised up by the Kennedy School of Government and the Soros-funded, hardcore leftwing, Aspen Institute. And apparently he’s proud of it.
Why do you want to give this guy the power of incumbency?
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