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To: Federalist Patriot

Thank you. I’m sick to death of the woe is me posts.

The fight is a long way from over and I’m not done yet.


2 posted on 11/21/2009 6:18:15 PM PST by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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To: cripplecreek

I have to admit that yesterday I thought it would be practically over if we lost this cloture vote tonight. But seeing the long process still ahead, there could be as many as three more cloture votes before Obama could sign ObamaCare into law. Two of those would come even after the Senate passed a bill.

The Democrats would have to be able to hold all 60 of their votes to pass any or all of those cloture votes. With Lieberman already saying he will vote against any bill that increases the debt or has a Public Option, that won’t be easy for them. The abortion division could also be a problem depending on what is in the final bill.


4 posted on 11/21/2009 6:21:46 PM PST by Federalist Patriot
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To: cripplecreek

Agree, but I’m still concerned and scared. Hoping it fails somehow!


5 posted on 11/21/2009 6:21:49 PM PST by Halls (Jesus is my Lord and Savior)
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To: cripplecreek

It’s nice to see someone spell out all the steps remaining before this inane bill can become law. Tonight was a loss, but there is still a long road ahead.

Will the Dems. be able to keep all 60 together for future cloture votes; that is a key question. I thought Joe Lieberman said he would be with Republicans on a filibuster if a bill included the public option, for example.

I see that both Susan Collins and Olympia Snowe voted with the rest of the Republicans tonight. So that’s good news. Aren’t there a few other moderate Republican senators we’ve been concerned about too? If all 40 Republicans stick together, that will force Democrats to keep every single one of their members walking the political plank at every step.

Tonight’s vote is just one step of many.


6 posted on 11/21/2009 6:24:43 PM PST by Dilbert San Diego
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To: cripplecreek

I have heard over and over each step of the way that there’s not a chance of it getting passed this next hurdle, and yet it does. I believe the fix is in and it will squeak by each step by one vote. The corruption in Washington is so pervasive I believe all of our efforts will come to naught. After all, those in power know that the only consequences of their actions will be angry letters and name calling from the right.


16 posted on 11/21/2009 7:22:50 PM PST by Boiling point (Beck 2012)
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To: cripplecreek
No, this Bill will not be stopped in the Senate.

The only hope left is in the House in the final vote.

The Democratic leadership has carefully planned this, from stealing the Alaskan and Minn. Senate seats, to getting that Republican seat in N.Y.

They know that no Democrat Senator (and that includes Liberaman) is going to stop the Democrat goal of Socialistic healthcare.

29 posted on 11/22/2009 3:14:52 AM PST by fortheDeclaration ("Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people".-John Adams)
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