That was a conversation between Don Imus and presidential historian Michael Beschloss, Beschloss comes off as a silly dope.
It's only a minute long, it's hilarious:
http://freedomeden.blogspot.com/2008/11/mike-beschloss-don-imus-and-barack.html
thank you. i will listen to it. imagine if this “crap” was used by conservatives when Bush II was in?