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To: HarleyD; Dr. Eckleburg; Alex Murphy; Gamecock; wmfights; the_conscience; Mr Rogers; blue-duncan
I, for one, do not plan on sitting back and waiting for the liberals to destroy this country.

I think one of the things we need to do to win this fight is to have allies. Lately we've seen some of the more extreme RC posters advocating a catholic monarchy, state regulation of churches and a union of state and church. However, we've also seen conservative RC's disagree and call these stupid ideas. IOW, we can't stigmatize all RC's because of a few. The Reagan coalition was successful in part because conservative RC's were a part of it.

It is our divine duty to fight for those things that are right and true. However, if that is God's will that we pass into shadow, then so be it.

Amen.

IOW, if we're going down lets go down fighting!

83 posted on 11/10/2009 6:21:12 PM PST by wmfights (If you want change support SenateConservatives.com)
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To: wmfights; HarleyD; Dr. Eckleburg; Alex Murphy; Gamecock; the_conscience; Mr Rogers; blue-duncan; ...
First, addressing the actual content of the article, the author does advocate an Augustinian two-kingdom basis for society which I agree with but then he devolves into his typical anti-Protestant rant and sloppily handles the history of the post Roman Empire and as is typical of Romanists, despite the fact they cry about personal hermeneutics, interprets Romanist dogma to his liking. All one need do is google “Catholic Socialism” and like terms and they will see how prevalent the Socialistic mindset pervades the Romanist mind.

As an advocate of a two-kingdom approach I have no aspirations for a “Christian society”. We are pilgrims and aliens in this world. That being said, I do believe there are certain natural rights derived from God that all men possess and it is our Christian duty to help preserve those rights for all men.

As to whether God is judging our nation I have a different impression by way of Romans 1:21-32. I don't believe it's so much a positive judgment as it is God merely giving us over, as a nation, to our own lusts. If the majority of people in this nation are giving over to the lust for government control of their lives God allows that to happen and the natural consequence is despotism.

Our job as Christians in our role as good citizens of the State is to reawaken the People to their natural rights and along with those rights comes responsibilities. Isn't this essentially what Reagan did? If we can get our fellow citizens to accept the responsibility's of their natural rights then we can live in relative peace but if we fail we shall surely live under despotism.

113 posted on 11/10/2009 11:11:28 PM PST by the_conscience ("[They] can't think for themselves, which is why they remain in a baby type of existence.")
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To: wmfights; HarleyD; Alex Murphy; Gamecock; the_conscience; Mr Rogers; blue-duncan
RC posters advocating a catholic monarchy, state regulation of churches and a union of state and church. However, we've also seen conservative RC's disagree

We may have seen a few RCs disagreeing with a Roman Catholic monarchist advocating despotism, but where is the Roman Catholic who rebukes Ratzinger's "global authority" initiative?

This forum has shown us that liberal, humanist theology breeds liberal, humanist politics.

I'm happy to stand politically side by side any conservative Roman Catholic. But there just aren't that many around here or anywhere else.

Ratzinger showed the true intentions of the papacy, and they haven't changed in 500 years. Top-down control by a select few whose power of enforcement has "teeth."

That's the future if we're not careful.

"The prophets prophesy falsely, and the priests bear rule by their means; and my people love to have it so: and what will ye do in the end thereof?" -- Jeremiah 5:31

114 posted on 11/10/2009 11:24:41 PM PST by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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