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OXI Day: How the Greeks Helped End World War II
"One Man's Blog" ^ | October 28, 2009 | John Pozadzides

Posted on 10/29/2009 3:49:54 AM PDT by Ravnagora

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To: Sherman Logan

many of the non-Russian and even a lot of Russians were more than willing to actually fight for the Germans


In fact most ethnic Russians would rather not have fought for Stalin...or Lenin...most of them were already dead in the gulags.

IN the 16th rifle division of the Soviet Red Army at least your factoid seems to hold up:

“As of January 1, 1943, of the 10,250 soldiers and officers of the division, 7,000 of them were ethnic Lithuanians and/or inhabitants of the Lithuanian SSR. The total ethnic make-up of the division was: 3720 Lithuanians (36.3%), 3064 Russians (29%), 2973 Jews (29%), and 492 of other nationalities (4.8%). Although other sources cite figures of 2378 Jews (23.2%) in the division, it is still the highest number of ethnic Jews amongst all divisions of the Red Army. [6] Jews made 13% (136 persons) of all officers in the division and 34.2% of all soldiers in the infantry regiments. 12 soldiers of a division have been awarded the title, Hero of Soviet Union, of them, four were Jews: major Volf Vilensky, sergeant Kalman Shur, corporal Grigorijus Ušpolis and private Borisas Cindelis (posthumously).”


21 posted on 10/29/2009 12:48:10 PM PDT by eleni121 (For God did not give us a spirit of timidity, but a spirit of power, of love and of self-discipline)
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To: Sherman Logan

Also had Moscow fell, there might have been a coup that deposed Stalin from power, so the Soviets would fight on, albeit with much different leadership, and may have even abandoned Communism in favor of national unity to fight the common enemy. I still think the Russians would have prevailed, or at least there would have been a stalemate as they would have continued to trade space for time.


22 posted on 10/29/2009 12:53:22 PM PDT by dfwgator
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Quite so. But due to his racial theories it wasn’t possible for him to even consider this.

The peoples of western Europe could be considered more or less Aryan, but those of the East were sub-humans and couldn’t be treated like people without giving up the whole rationale for the Nazis’ power.

This is similar to the way the commies were unable to build an effective economy without abandoning the theory that was the source of their power.

Although it should be pointed out the Chinese commies appear to have successfully accomplished this. They appear to be able to run a (sorta) market economy while retaining complete political power for the Party.


23 posted on 10/30/2009 6:14:25 AM PDT by Sherman Logan ("The price of freedom is the toleration of imperfections." Thomas Sowell)
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