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Should Christians Fast During Ramadan With Muslims?
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| October 26Th, 2009
| Christopher Logan
Posted on 10/26/2009 12:56:41 PM PDT by Islaminaction
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To: DallasDeb
fasting should be a totally voluntary eventIt is. Being a Christian is a voluntary act. But it's one that has consequences for what we do, because being a Christian is the opposite of being an atomized individual. Because communion is important to Christians, they emphasize this by doing things corporately -- including, sometimes, fasting. If you don't believe in corporate acts of faith, don't be a Christian. In fact -- you can't be.
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posted on
10/26/2009 2:34:55 PM PDT
by
Romulus
(The Traditional Latin Mass is the real Youth Mass)
To: Romulus; DallasDeb
"
Because communion is important to Christians, they emphasize this by doing things corporately" Communion requires only one. (plus the Lord of course)
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posted on
10/26/2009 2:37:23 PM PDT
by
editor-surveyor
(The beginning of the O'Bomb-a administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
To: Mrs. Don-o
"
To whom, or among whom, exactly, is this debatable?" The nuts and the fruitcake?
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posted on
10/26/2009 2:39:10 PM PDT
by
editor-surveyor
(The beginning of the O'Bomb-a administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
To: Islaminaction
The question is purely academic. We’ll all be under Sharia law pretty soon....
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posted on
10/26/2009 2:46:22 PM PDT
by
Cyber Liberty
(Ram "Health Care Reform" down our throats in '09, and we'll ram it up your @ss in '10.)
To: DallasDeb
I agree with you, but what's this about "not forced on you by church rules"? There's no "force" behind church rules. No police. No fines and jail. No knife and gun. One belongs to a church by choice.
But you know that. Am I missing something?
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posted on
10/26/2009 2:47:35 PM PDT
by
Mrs. Don-o
("Drawing on my fine command of the English language, I said nothing."--Robert Benchley)
To: Mrs. Don-o
Ramadan is a fast? They should try a real one, like Lent. Same thing except you actually eat less every day...
To: Mrs. Don-o
Are you Catholic? If not, then you are missing something. If you are, then you should know what I’m talking about. The Catholic Church imposes sinfulness on those who do not fulfill its “rules” (also known as “traditions”) on fasting and abstinence. Community fasting is a very good thing—getting more people involved in it is like prayer—the more involved, the more effective. But God wants people to sacrifice with a willing heart—not be beaten down for not doing it. Just like God created us with our own free will to worship him, he does not want us to be forced into the fasting and sacrifice.
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posted on
10/26/2009 3:29:50 PM PDT
by
DallasDeb
(USAFA '06 Mom)
To: Islaminaction
I would do nothing, zip, nada that would show the least respect for Islam. EVER!
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posted on
10/26/2009 3:34:37 PM PDT
by
jusduat
(probably lost)
To: Islaminaction
Should Christians Fast During Ramadan With Muslims?
No. Ramadan, from my own observation, was designed to disrupt relationships with non-Muslims that may have developed over the previous year and to be used to pressure vacillating Muslims back into the fold out of fear of standing out from the fasting crowd. The fast is also not from food but from water or any kind of drink. If you miss a day, you have to tack it onto the end of the month to make it up. If, though, you need to take medicine, you can skip the fast. Still, I see it as a crowd control mechanism.
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posted on
10/26/2009 3:42:23 PM PDT
by
aruanan
To: Islaminaction
No. I don't care about what they do,
BUT I do care when they, Muslims, start forcing their "religion" on us who don't follow their satanic ways. Here's what I say to them:
To: narses; All
![](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1b/Baby_back_ribs.JPG/800px-Baby_back_ribs.JPG)
Ribs!
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posted on
10/26/2009 4:41:56 PM PDT
by
rdl6989
(January 20, 2013 The end of an error.)
To: rdl6989
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posted on
10/26/2009 4:50:57 PM PDT
by
narses
("These are the days when the Christian is expected to praise every creed except his own.")
To: Islaminaction
Should Christians Fast During Ramadan With Muslims? No.
Next question?
And let's not make it a stupid question, this time.
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posted on
10/26/2009 6:18:34 PM PDT
by
Publius6961
(Â…he's not America, he's an employee who hasn't risen to minimal expectations.)
To: DallasDeb
Are you a no-Catholic? The way you write of Catholic faith and practice seems odd to me. The Catholic Church doesn't "impose sinfulness" on anyone (imagine my perplexed look here). Being a Catholic is a voluntary thing. There are very moderate (in fact rather slack) precepts of the Church on fasting and abstinence: all a matter of willing heart, and no "force" or "beating down" as you put it.
Your objection strikes my ears like that of a person who does not want to be "beaten down" into going to Grandma's on Thanksgiving. Really? Nobody's forcing you. It's a love thing.
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posted on
10/26/2009 6:29:49 PM PDT
by
Mrs. Don-o
("Drawing on my fine command of the English language, I said nothing."--Robert Benchley)
To: Texican72
Should Christians Fast During Ramadan With Muslims?
What kind of a stupid ass question is this ?
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posted on
10/26/2009 6:34:04 PM PDT
by
sonic109
To: jusduat
“I would do nothing, zip, nada that would show the least respect for Islam. EVER!”
I’m with you.
To: jusduat
![](http://doctorbulldog.files.wordpress.com/2007/11/koran-toilet-paper.jpg)
This is putting the Koran to good use.
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posted on
10/27/2009 1:55:29 AM PDT
by
rdl6989
(January 20, 2013 The end of an error.)
To: Mrs. Don-o
I was a Catholic from birth to 40+ years. It was a mortal sin to eat meat on Friday (until the change in the ‘60’s) or during lent, or to not fast on certain days (Ash Wednesday, Good Friday). You are absolutely correct that there should be a willing heart, but most Catholics do it out of the fear that they will go to Purgatory (or worse) if they don’t “follow the rules.” My parents still don’t know that they are assured Salvation. Christ died for us to be free from constant worry of whether or not we have done enough good works.
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posted on
10/27/2009 1:11:22 PM PDT
by
DallasDeb
(USAFA '06 Mom)
To: DallasDeb
Deb, please think again about the three conditions for a mortal sin:
- grave matter (it's a very serious moral issue)
- knowledge (the person knows the utter seriousness of the offense)
- consent (the person gives full, free consent to the evil)
Do you think a person ever intended grave evil by eating meat on a day of abstinence? I, personally, would doubt it, unless it was somebody intending deliberate disrespect to Our Lord (for instance, aggressive atheists sponsoring a public pig BBQ in fron to St. Patrick's on Good Friday: which is exactly the kind of thing the militant homosexual group Act-Up has done, by the way.)
Some people may have a mistakenly over-scrupulous conscience about such things as an ill-timed burger, and for them I feel sorry. But I would hasten to reassure them that salvation depends on our opening our hearts to the goodness of our Good Lord Jesus; and He gives, not fear, but peace.
Amen? Amen!
God bless you and your family, Deb!
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posted on
10/27/2009 4:04:35 PM PDT
by
Mrs. Don-o
("It is our choices, far more than our abilities, that show us what we truly are. " -- J.K.Rowling)
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