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To: JohnQ1

Not since 1853, when the presidency of Millard Fillmore ended, have we had a President who has not been a Democrat or Republican. That is 156 years of two party dominance of the White House. Millard Fillmore was a Whig.

Duverger’s law explains the tendency of a plurality-centered electoral system for a two party system of election.

Since President Fillmore, the Democrats and Republicans have established themselves as the major two parties in accordance with the principles of Duverger’s law.

There are several third parties that exist today all of which try to establish themselves on the ballots in each state. Currently, their current ability is only to frustrate the major two parties by siphoning votes from them to the point that it could cause the opposite major party to win. With very few exceptions, third party candidates only suffice to bring attention of various issues to the major two parties.

If a third party candidate wants to win, there has to be a major fallout in either or both of the major two parties. Each party, major or minor, has a base voting block. These are groups of people that these parties cater to for their support so they will take on issues that are important to their base.

We will examine the 2004 and 2008 Presidential election results to find some trends in both major parties and minor parties.

2004

Republican: George W. Bush. Won.
Popular Vote: 62,040,610 votes. 30% Eligible Voter Turnout.

Democrat: John Kerry. Lost.
Popular Vote: 59,028,444 votes. 28.7% Eligible Voter Turnout.

Non Party: Ralph Nader. Lost.
Popular Vote. 465,650 votes.

Libertarian: Michael Badnarik. Lost.
Popular Vote. 397,265 votes.

2008

Republican: John McCain. Lost.
Popular Vote: 59,934,814 votes. 28.7% Eligible Voter Turnout.

Democrat: Barack Obama. Won.
Popular Vote: 69,456,897 votes. 31.6% Eligible Voter Turnout.

Independent: Ralph Nader. Lost.
Popular Vote: 738,475 votes.

Libertarian: Bob Barr. Lost.
Popular Vote: 523,686 votes.

In 2008, it is estimated that the Registered Voters was around 214,579,951 voters. In 2004, the estimate was 206,250,517 voters. This in an increase of 8,329,434 voters.

With a 52.9% Democrat versus a 45.7% Republican popular vote, we can take the 8,329,434 additional voters and average them out to 4,406,270 votes for the Democrat, 3,806,551 votes for the Republican, and 116,613 votes for the Third Party candidates.

We also see a small increase in votes for third party candidates from 2004 to 2008 but they have not amounted to anything significant to warrant any major claim of prominence.

The above data doesn’t fare well for third party candidates. If this trend continues, none of us will be alive at the time their candidates can get enough votes to win the White House...

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15 posted on 10/17/2009 4:26:00 PM PDT by luckybogey
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To: luckybogey

Nader, Barr, and Badnarik were “in the game” about the same way amateurs get to “try” to win the US Open: no real chance. But there were three parties in play in 2008: Ds, Rs, and Ms. The M(arxist)s masqueraded as Ds, stole 13 of 14 caucuses, and won an electoral landside. They are in power, and they are willing to do *anything* to stay in power, or to “transform” this nation to such an extent that we will find it virtually impossible to repair the damage.

We need to beat Dems and RINOs in order to beat the Ms, because only conservatives will oppose the Ms. I pray that we can get back to where we only have to beat the Ds and RINOs, but I don’t see this happening by any legal means.


25 posted on 10/17/2009 5:45:56 PM PDT by JohnQ1 (Pray for peace, prepare for war.)
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To: luckybogey

Duverger’s law

excellent!


35 posted on 10/17/2009 9:28:00 PM PDT by campaignPete R-CT ("pray without ceasing" - Paul of Tarsus)
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