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Local high-speed rail: why didn't we think of that?
The Dallas Morning News Opinion Blog ^ | Fri, Oct 16, 2009 | Clayton M. McCleskey/Points Staff Writer

Posted on 10/16/2009 7:15:15 AM PDT by Willie Green

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1 posted on 10/16/2009 7:15:15 AM PDT by Willie Green
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To: Willie Green

Geez, they love spending other peoples money


2 posted on 10/16/2009 7:18:47 AM PDT by GeronL
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I'd take it.

At the cost of $1 billion per mile, you wouldn't pay the $75-100 fare. So, no, you wouldn't take it.

3 posted on 10/16/2009 7:18:54 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (Joe Wilson speaks for me.)
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Texas T bone

4 posted on 10/16/2009 7:19:53 AM PDT by evets (beer)
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To: Willie Green

Hmmm Dallas to far from Ft Worth for some city folks ?

Hell we drive further than that for lunch up here in the Panhandle an still get more done in a day. But then we only have one 4 way stop sign an no traffic lights.

Going anywhere near DFW scares my truck dog anyway............


5 posted on 10/16/2009 7:23:55 AM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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Dallas to far from Ft Worth for some city folks ?

The funny thing is, depending on traffic, 35 between Dallas and Ft Worth will sometimes catch you in a flow going 90. A 125 mph rail wouldn't save a whole lot, especially when you factor in the time for parking, getting tickets, loading the train, etc.

6 posted on 10/16/2009 7:26:32 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: Yo-Yo
At the cost of $1 billion per mile, you wouldn't pay the $75-100 fare. So, no, you wouldn't take it.

In NM, Richardson's Railroad charges relatively small fares (it costs $1 for the cheapest fare, and $7 for the most expensive one-way fares (average cost goes down with day passes, monthly and annual passes). It is said for every rider who pays the ticket, taxpayers are covering about 90% of the fare. Make the riders who actually use it pay full, cost-covering fares, and see how long it stays in business.

7 posted on 10/16/2009 7:29:27 AM PDT by IYAS9YAS (The townhalls were going great until the oPods showed up.)
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To: Yo-Yo
At the cost of $1 billion per mile, you wouldn't pay the $75-100 fare. So, no, you wouldn't take it.

So what are you going to take, Yo-Yo, when the gas costs that much per gallon?

Or didn't you read the part about the dwindling oil supply?

8 posted on 10/16/2009 7:29:58 AM PDT by Willie Green (Go Pat Go!!!)
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How cool would it be to have a bullet train that goes from downtown Dallas to downtown Ft. Worth at over 125 mph?

Wow.

And you know what else would be neat. Like if you had this rocket ship that maybe ran on ions or something and could go to the rings of Uranus and stuff? /s

Yep as long as no one has to foot the bill sure why not....we can’t have the RIDERS pay their own way...that would cost too much.


9 posted on 10/16/2009 7:36:39 AM PDT by Adder (Proudly ignoring Zero since 1-20-09!)
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What they really need is for American Airlines to set up a DFW flight from Love Field.


10 posted on 10/16/2009 7:38:54 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: Willie Green

Not to shoot down your idea...

Terrorist turns high speed train into high speed projectile, 160 dead, 250 injured. Something was on the track witness says.


11 posted on 10/16/2009 7:39:30 AM PDT by listenhillary (A "cult of personality" arises when a leader uses mass media creating idealized/heroic public image)
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To: mnehring
A 125 mph rail wouldn't save a whole lot, especially when you factor in the time for parking, getting tickets, loading the train, etc.

Does "etc" include factoring in the future price of gas?

The GOP's petro-centric vision of a New World Order was a disaster.
We need to shift to Nuclear Power for the 21st Century.
Bleeding the American consumer with Oil isn't going to win back the WH.

12 posted on 10/16/2009 7:40:42 AM PDT by Willie Green (Go Pat Go!!!)
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Willie, Peak Oil doesn’t hold up to scrutiny. We are finding more and more oil all the time, and there is still a lot left in the ground that can be pulled out with enhanced recovery techniques. As the price slowly climbs, that oil becomes economically viable to extract and refine. But the folks who want to herd American back into dense cities like to scare them about oil shortages.


13 posted on 10/16/2009 7:43:39 AM PDT by dirtboy
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Willie, I will take my plug in hybrid automobile when or if gasoline hits $75 per gallon.


14 posted on 10/16/2009 7:46:19 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (Joe Wilson speaks for me.)
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Terrorist turns high speed train into high speed projectile, 160 dead, 250 injured. Something was on the track witness says.

Anybody can fabricate a Big Bad BoogyMan.

"RED ALERT -- Terrorists turn metro-beltway into multi-car meat grinder. Toss trash out of pick-up into 60 mph bumper-to-bumper rush hour traffic."

See how easy it is???

15 posted on 10/16/2009 7:47:14 AM PDT by Willie Green (Go Pat Go!!!)
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The etc factors in a lot of things but I was just thinking of time. Imagine you live in Garland and work in downtown Ft Worth. The new high speed terminal, for example, would be at NorthCentral Expressway and Gaston, just north of downtown. Dallas.

So, you jump in your car and take 30 to NorthCentral Expressway, where you creep along at rush hour.. it takes about 30 minutes to drive the two miles from 35 to the Gaston exit, but the Gaston exist is also backed up so you sit there for another 15 minutes. Once you finally are able to exit to the parking lot for the rail terminal, it takes you five minutes to park, another five to walk to the ticket counter and get your tickets. You then wait 15 minutes for your departure time. You are finally able to board and ZOOM, only 20 minutes to downtown Ft Worth where you exit the train, and grab a taxi to your office, let’s say another 5 minutes. We can figure 20 minutes from Garland to 35/NorthCentral Expressway exit. 30 minutes from NorthCentral Expressway to Gaston. 15 minutes waiting at that exit. 5 minutes parking. 5 minutes for the ticket. 15 minutes for the wait to leave. 20 minutes for the train ride. 5 minutes for the taxi. High speed rail took you 115 minutes.

On the other hand, you leave Garland and jump on 35W and stay on that until you reach downtown Ft Worth. 60 minutes tops (with slower traffic) and at worst, 15 minutes to find a parking spot.


16 posted on 10/16/2009 7:50:17 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: Willie Green
The GOP's petro-centric vision of a New World Order was a disaster.

Willie, you are clueless. Our dependence on petroleum isn't some New World Order conspiracy, it is just a natural affect of progress. Oil has been a cheap, easy to access commodity. Our entire lives are based on it, and not just the gas in our cars. The computer in front of you, most of the parts have some sort of petrochemical base. Your desk, I would bet you there also. How about that pop tart you are eating? Artificial preservatives, food coloring, some artificial oils, all made from petrochemicals. The road you drive on, petrochemicals in asphalt. Your home, petrochemicals all over the place. Your trash bags, petrochemicals. Your toothpaste, guess what..

If you want to stop the "new world order petrochemical conspiracy" as you see it, move to a cave.

17 posted on 10/16/2009 7:55:11 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: dirtboy
We are finding more and more oil all the time, and there is still a lot left in the ground that can be pulled out with enhanced recovery techniques.

Yep, and we can probably discover oil on one of the moons of Jupiter and pipe it back when the price gets high enough. There's always going to be Oil left somewhere in the Universe, all you have to do is spend enough money to get it.

Sorry, dirtboy. I'm not interested in the Oil is Plentiful propaganda from the Oil Lobby.
They're not interested in providing economical fuel, only charging the maximum price that the market can endure. And right now, our market has cracked under their weight.

18 posted on 10/16/2009 7:55:27 AM PDT by Willie Green (Go Pat Go!!!)
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Anybody can fabricate a Big Bad BoogyMan.

See how easy it is???

Hmmm....let me try:

So what are you going to take, Yo-Yo, when the gas costs that much per gallon?

Hey, you're right, it's both easy AND fun!

19 posted on 10/16/2009 7:55:29 AM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (Happiness is a choice!)
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They're not interested in providing economical fuel, only charging the maximum price that the market can endure.

Damn counter-revolutionary hoarders!

20 posted on 10/16/2009 7:57:24 AM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (Happiness is a choice!)
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