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To: curiosity
I've seen lots of birthers make this allegation, but as usual, they present no evidence to back up their case.

It's probably a conclusion based on the fact that there was a separate "Certificate of Hawaiian Birth" (distinct from a "Certificate of Live Birth" or "Certification of Live Birth) until 1972.

Actually though, the COHB was a looser program for people who couldn't get a birth certificate.

It was intended for children born on out of the way plantations whose births weren't recorded by doctors or hospitals.

But is there real evidence that standards in the Hawaiian COLB program were laxer than in other states?

One thing that gets brought up is the Certificate of Hawaiian Birth that Chinese leader Sun Yat-Sen (1866-1925) was able to get in 1904, even though he wasn't born in Hawaii.

When he was living in Hawaii, Sun got people to lie for him to get his COHB. That was not a COLB, though.

So I don't know. It wouldn't be the first time one of these factoids turned out to be untrue.

31 posted on 10/15/2009 2:21:44 PM PDT by x
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To: x
But is there real evidence that standards in the Hawaiian COLB program were laxer than in other states?

Not that I've seen.

There's so many birthers diligently digging up anything they can find, that I think it's pretty likely we'd have seen evidence of lax standards if they were in fact as lax as birthers claim they were.

It wouldn't be the first time one of these factoids turned out to be untrue.

So far, that's happened with virtually every factoid the birthers have come up with.

35 posted on 10/15/2009 2:44:29 PM PDT by curiosity
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