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Posted on 10/14/2009 5:38:11 PM PDT by cjmae

Can anyone shed light on this?

My wife is a preschool teacher and one of her students was diagnosed with the swine flu.

The child's mother told the teachers that her doctor had to charge her full fee for the flu test and the pharmacy wouldn't take her legitimate insurance for the child's Tamaflu prescription due to the government taking control of the flu "epidemic" or something to that affect.

My wife called her pharmacist to ask her about it and we didn't get a lot of information but the short answer had the word confiscation in it and although they can produce a sort of Tamaflu in house they weren't allowed to anymore.

The child's mother was told that the only discounted Tamaflu or flu test would be free to medicade participants and insurance companies are either electing to or have been ordered to not provide discounts via co-pay.

When I heard this I imediately thought of conspiracy. Hype up the flu to make everyone freak out and then make the test and treatment expensive to lay the foundation for accepting a government option.

I've looked around for backing to this as it was the first I had heard of it so how about you guys?

Thanks


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Government; Health/Medicine
KEYWORDS: flu; h1n1; influenza; swineflu; tamaflu; tamiflu
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1 posted on 10/14/2009 5:38:12 PM PDT by cjmae
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To: cjmae

The story doesn’t pass the smell test.


2 posted on 10/14/2009 5:40:17 PM PDT by Trust but Verify
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To: cjmae

We got tamiflu when my daughter was exposed to the flu. It took a few days to get it, but we did. This was back in May.


3 posted on 10/14/2009 5:42:35 PM PDT by luckystarmom
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To: cjmae
Hype up the flu to make everyone freak out

Really unrelated to your point, but my take has been that the compliant media is always willing to hype Mexiflu at the beck and call of the DNC.....

Example, Pelosi's getting bitchslapped by the CIA dropped out of sight with another hysterical doom and gloom "alert".

4 posted on 10/14/2009 5:44:32 PM PDT by ErnBatavia (Mmm mmm mmm - Barack Hussein Obama (repeat endlessly))
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To: luckystarmom

I’ve got the flu right now. Who cares if this stuff is here or not. It doesn’t work. I had a dose a month ago.


5 posted on 10/14/2009 5:45:31 PM PDT by oldenuff2no (I'm a VET and damn proud of it!!! I did not fight for a socialist America!!!!!!!)
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To: cjmae

Virtually no swine flu tests are ever done. It is a $400 test and serves no real purpose. If you have flu signs and symptoms it is considered swine flu because the seasonal flu has yet to emerge.

I couldn’t make heads or tails out of the Tamiflu issue.


6 posted on 10/14/2009 5:46:07 PM PDT by Kirkwood
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To: Trust but Verify

It sounds odd at a minimum.
My wife doesn’t know the lady well enough to comfortably ask her about the kind of coverage she has but it made me wonder.


7 posted on 10/14/2009 5:47:37 PM PDT by cjmae (Sanity was not equally distributed)
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To: the crow

flu info ping

might be of interest


8 posted on 10/14/2009 5:50:07 PM PDT by Tainan (Cogito, ergo conservatus)
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To: neverdem

Anything to this??????????


9 posted on 10/14/2009 5:52:31 PM PDT by raybbr (It's going to get a lot worse now that the anchor babies are voting!)
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To: Trust but Verify
The story doesn’t pass the smell test.

Well said.

Here in Indiana, nobody is testing for H1N1 anymore.

As for Tamiflu, here's what Wiki says (yes I'm aware that Wiki is on the FR "trash it" list) According to the CDC, Tamiflu is not very effective in currently circulating seasonal H1N1 virus anymore due to acquired resistance in 99.6% of all seasonal H1N1 strains, up from 12% in 2007-2008 flu season.[25]

10 posted on 10/14/2009 5:57:38 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: nascarnation
It’s hyped up down here in SC

everyone’s complaining that there aren’t enough vacines to go around.

other than that every doctor or pharmacist I’ve spoken with anyway say it’s not as severe as the regular flu.

It’ll be something else next year.

11 posted on 10/14/2009 6:07:08 PM PDT by cjmae (Sanity was not equally distributed)
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To: cjmae

This flu scare has been hoped for by the media for over 5 years now. They have been screaming about the PANDEMIC coming for over 5 years. It’s like they love to say the word pandemic. Like the news idiots who always want to say “I digress”, like it makes them sound smart.
They get the flu going around and they scream that we will al die without the flu shot. (although the type you get is never what is going around) Hell, they could give everyone a sugar pill and have the same effect.


12 posted on 10/14/2009 6:16:45 PM PDT by 9422WMR (When seconds count, the cops are only minutes away.)
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To: cjmae

Get some Star Anise http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_anise it is the main ingredient in tamiflu and brew your own tea.


13 posted on 10/14/2009 6:16:52 PM PDT by chris_bdba
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To: chris_bdba

Thanks for the tip. I just had a chai tea latte last night, who knows, maybe I warded off the swine flu and didn’t know it.


14 posted on 10/14/2009 6:26:55 PM PDT by FrdmLvr ("The people will believe what the media tells them they believe." Orwell)
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To: cjmae

My daughter got the swine flu, the doctor recommended all of us get Tamaflu that were exposed. We all got it without any problems, though I think my doctor must’ve been slow in getting a memo. They said it was restricted to certain groups only, but I got it. I didn’t have any flu symptoms so I saved 6 of the 10 capsules out of the box just in case.


15 posted on 10/14/2009 6:33:47 PM PDT by Brett66 (Where government advances, and it advances relentlessly , freedom is imperiled -Janice Rogers Brown)
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To: nascarnation
due to acquired resistance in 99.6% of all seasonal H1N1 strains

There is no such thing as "seasonal H1N1 strains". Gibberish.

H1N1 cases resistant to Tamiflu are quite rare.

16 posted on 10/14/2009 6:37:49 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture)
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To: steve86

so this is incorrect?
can you cite any references?

Antiviral Resistance:

Since October 1, 2008, 1,151 seasonal influenza A (H1N1), 264 influenza A (H3N2), 654 influenza B, and 989 2009 influenza A (H1N1) virus isolates have been tested for resistance to the neuraminidase inhibitors (oseltamivir and zanamivir). In addition, 1,051 2009 influenza A (H1N1) original clinical samples were tested for a single known mutation in the virus that confers oseltamivir resistance. Also, 1,157 seasonal influenza A (H1N1), 271 influenza A (H3N2), and 526 2009 influenza A (H1N1) viruses have been tested for resistance to the adamantanes (amantadine and rimantadine). The results of antiviral resistance testing performed on these viruses are summarized in the table below. Additional laboratories perform antiviral testing and report their results to CDC.

http://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/


17 posted on 10/14/2009 6:43:42 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: cjmae

I know nothing about this sort of situation, but from reading stories on swine flu over the past few weeks, I do have the impression that “they” are recommending that Tamiflu only be used when a case becomes out of the ordinary in some way. Kind of decided there was a “save it for later” attitude since there is still a possibility swine flu could mutate and become more deadly, and the supply of Tamiflu is still limited in terms of the needs of a real pandemic of a deadly flu.

Also read one story where a young person was not given Tamiflu, then died and the parents were questioning that decision.


18 posted on 10/14/2009 6:51:08 PM PDT by Will88
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To: oldenuff2no

I’ve used tamiflu twice when I’ve gotten flu after my kids have had it. My flu was much less severe then theirs. I was sick for maybe a day and milder respiratory symptoms.


19 posted on 10/14/2009 6:51:41 PM PDT by luckystarmom
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To: Will88

You have to take tamiflu when you first get it within 24-48 hours. You can’t wait until it gets bad.

I think they are only giving it to high risk patients now.


20 posted on 10/14/2009 6:53:06 PM PDT by luckystarmom
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