Orly Taitz Flock Shootin'

Lame Cherry ^ | 0/19/09 | staff

[El Gato]

1. And when presidential candidate Obama appears alongside other candidates during national debates, I have no doubt that he will be asked repeatedly to explain why he won't release his Hawaii long form birth certificate and his Occidental, Columbia, and Harvard college records.

Only if the states pass laws requiring proof of eligibility. Otherwise, they'll not want to be called racist pigs, and will shut up.

[American Constitutionalist]

I guess you don't think those 2 DNC documents that Pelosi signed to certify Obama is questionable and raises a red flag ?

[American Constitutionalist]

Did you know that, that was that type of line of chain of command the Germans had during WWII ?

[etraveler13]

However, IF he is not removed in this term, everything he signed, every appointment he made, every program he stopped, etc. will stay in place.
If he is removed as unqualified to be POTUS, all of it is reversed, and nothing he did will stand.

Do you understand the importance of him being removed, not impeached, removed?

[etraveler13]

1. I say the above for this reason: If Taitz faces a disbarrment investigation and trial, she will become an instant martyr in the eyes of the anti-Obama people, and she will receive instant national publicity.

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I thought you only became a martyr when you died. Would she then get 70 male virgins??? Her husband might have something to say about that....FDLMAO...

sorry, I really do get your point, just being funny.
Many think she is a puppet (although unwilling) to the Obama cause. Keep the spotlight on her, and he can accomplish so much. Notice he does not give any time to this, he has lawyers keeping her busy, while he continues in the background on his agenda.

But in fact, the more that gets known about him, the faster he has to get the thing on his checklist accomplished. Hence the increased pressure on getting Healthcare legislation signed, with our without bipartisan support.

He is losing, people are sending fake stuff to the courts...great...it takes a long time to determine its fake...more time to do what he needs to get done...the old bob and weave...rope a dope..Obama style...best part is, his fanatic supporters are the fodder tossed to the courts, with no danger to him...they are doing it for him...or his lawyers...Delay delay delay, until it is too late.

People demonize, or defame, or insult the only person working on a solution, but lawyers need to be the big name on the news or pro bono is not a consideration. Quit the whining lawyers, ask not what America can do for you, ask what you can do for America...and then do it. Support Orly Taitz in any way you can...and do it for America.

[OCCASparky]

In so far as she performed them as her duty as Speaker of the House? Wow—talk about your whole world coming apart at the seams.

[OCCASparky]

You would be incorrect. Look up Ryder Vs. United States.

[presently no screen name]

Great insight! That’s it, exactly.

[etraveler13]

I would say you need to be specific concerning exactly what I am incorrect about. I wrote quite a bit. Be specific.

[danamco]

Actually, I would say that we have a quite a few numbers of QUISLINGS posting on F.R.!!!

[danamco]

NO, because they and many more DNCs and some RNCs would probably be following Barry in lockstep all the way to sunny GITMO!!!

[OCCASparky]

If he is removed as unqualified to be POTUS, all of it is reversed, and nothing he did will stand.

Specifically, that's what I took issue with. Just because he was or would be removed from office does not mean legislation he signed becomes moot.

[danamco]

As a veteran, I hope you are NOT an “After-Birther”???

[American Constitutionalist]

And what will you think when she and Joe is also complicit in this whole scam ?

[danamco]

Why is it that you are sooooo eager to shot the messenger instead of the message???

It seems to me that you have some old fashion a Male(?) chauvinistic agenda!!!

[etraveler13]

You are incorrect. If YOU signed legislation in washington, and were not even a US Citizen, lot less the POTUS, should anybody take anything you said as law???? Of course not.

If Obama is shown to be unqualified, then anything he signed requiring the Presidents signature would be meaningless. Anyone he installed in and office, or appointed to an office, like Chief Justice Sotomayor, would be vacated, because he was unqualified (did not have the constitutional permission)to do so.

So, all the stuff he has done, IMO, to destroy this nation, would be reversed. This is not to say that a NEW President, who is qualified, might not do the same thing, but, he would have to start from scratch.

My concern is that something might happen to Obama before he is removed from office. It is not that the investigation would not continue, but it would take longer to reverse his decisions until it was proven that he was not qualified. In the interim, Joe Biden would fill the position, and might just continue with what Obama started. So removal of Obama, disqualification of Biden, as he ran under a false ticket, et al...would happen.

[OCCASparky]

I have a problem with those deluded fools who follow Orly and try to get out of deployments based on a very thin line of suppositions. Not only are you putting your career at risk, it screws over your entire command and some other poor schlub who has to take YOUR place because of it.

I'm becoming less and less convinced of her motives. From what I'm seeing, it's less and less about getting rid of Obama, and more and more about her and her attempts at self-promotion.

Finally, in the absence of proof that he is NOT a legitimate president (and failing to answer someone's questions regarding eligibility does not constitute "proof") any orders he gives have to be considered lawful. I didn't like serving under Clinton, either, but he was still my C-in-C. As a wise old chief once said to me, "You get to defend democracy, you don't get to practice it!"

[OCCASparky]

Once again, incorrect. Look at it yourself:

http://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/94-431.ZO.html

A similar principle applies here, specifically, "The de facto officer doctrine confers validity upon acts performed by a person acting under the color of official title even though it is later discovered that the legality of that person's appointment or election to office is deficient."

[mlo]

"Silly me. And all this time I thought the Constitution actually had some requirements. Now that I know its merely recommendations, well that changes everything."

You're response has nothing to do with what I said.

Of course there are constitutional requirements. That doesn't mean what you said makes any sense. There is no "applicant". He has no burden to prove anything now.

[etraveler13]

None of the three judges were appointed by Obama, they could be appointed in 3 possible manners. So this is not an argument where Obama appointed them, and the conviction could be overturned because of that possibility. And indeed, until it happens the court action could not begin.

I disagree that this is a valid argument, in opposition to what I stated. I would suggest, if you have a mind to, to check United States v. Carpenter, 37 M. J. 291 (1993), to see clarification for the dismissal of claims.