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I am a Gen "Y"er (WHY) - so i am questioning
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Posted on 09/16/2009 6:08:51 PM PDT by seven.sixtwo

I am a Gen "Y"er (WHY) - so i am questioning A LOT right now. This is the way I see it.

I've been doing a lot of 'soul searching' the past few days...taking a step back from things and i honestly wonder if our efforts, anger, frustration is even worth it.

We can all agree that our nation is headed to hell in a hand basket. At this stage in the game, in the 9th inning, is it even possible to return to the greatness this nation once was? I can honestly say that most of my generation and especially the ones after me do not remember or know the greatness that this country once was. All they knew is regulation, control and "you can do this, but" mentality. Perhaps if the masses woke up when our nation began the downward spiral 40 years ago, we would have a fighting chance. TPTB are the machine and they keep moving despite ALL we do.

What the previous generation tolerates becomes the norm for the next.

Does anyone really think 2010 elections will change anything? All i hear now is that the GOP must win! - we have short memories then. The GOP was a big part of the problem! If obamacare and cap and trade become law, what the hell will 2010 do? the leftists may loose a few seats here and there, but as we saw in 2006 and more so in 2008 - the power seats are bought and paid for. my vote was canceled out by some illegal alien, mickey mouse or someone who voted 32 times.

I truly feel obama will see a 2nd term and the democrats will hold the house/senate through 2012....possibly longer. We can all rejoice that ACORN got defunded, but i feel it's just lip service. ACORN handed obama the the democrats a super majority, do you think they are going to be left in the dark? no way!

This upcoming 2010 census is going to dramatically change the face of this nation. districts nationwide will be changed to favor democrats. will our votes even count?

Cap and Trade - if this passes, what will the people do? yeah, we can vote them out, but good luck on getting the largest tax in world history repealed. there is really no way out of this one.

Obamacare - if this passes (and i think it will), what will the people do? it's obvious that the endless protesting has not done a whole lot. The people will suck it up, and learn to live with it as they have every other regulation, esp since the IRS will enforce it.

illegal amnesty - if this passes (which it probably will), what will the people do? if my memory serves me correctly, amnesty was passed under reagan and what did the people do? from what it seems - nothing.

Gun owners - don't even get me started. I am a rather new gun owner (1 year) and often wonder if our founding fathers would even want to be in a fox hole with some of the gun owners we have today who live in utter fear of their govt. You did nothing in 68, you did nothing in 86....yeah the democrats may have lost the house in 94 over the AWB, but the AWB was still law for a long time and was overall accepted and 'tolerated'.

I've never in my life seen a group of people who are so willing to be controlled. Now, i am not using this as a blanket statement and lump every gun owner into this boat, but when i read in guns and ammo magazine 'this gun is why the politicians wont repeal the bill of rights' - i have to laugh! we need permission to assemble and protest, permission for the right to protect ourselves....need i go on? Dude, for the most part the bill of rights has been repealed...it's contents are more permissible right now then anything.

Swine flu - with all this talk about quarantines and mandatory inoculation, i hear many say they will refuse - really? how many other mandatory vaccines were forced on us? Given the nature of this forum, i can assume most people can self sustain for a long period of time, but what if they come knocking on your door?

"They will side with us" - another term i have to really laugh at. While a percentage of cops and even military would refuse 'unconstitutional orders' such as gun confiscations, where was the refusal post katrina? ethics or a paycheck? that's what it's come down to in this nation. Would a 'civil servant' really want to disrupt his/her livelihood for the sake of some sheepish citizens? Probably not. Depending on how you look at it - much of what "law enforcement" does is enforce unconstitutional laws.... eh, it's a job.

Taxes - they will go up! what will the people do? just what they've done in the past - nothing. they will accept it and learn to live with it. When i got my first job, i was conditioned to be ok with 25%+ of my paycheck being confiscated. i thought nothing of it honestly. so....let me go make more $ to offset that loss - aaah, now i have 30% stolen from me. Where is my incentive!?!?!

20% +/- of my paycheck is stolen every 2 weeks (married) 40% of my cell phone bill is taxes I started a small business a little while back - my biggest expenses are the state and local fees and licensing! not equipment or labor - government mandates fees and taxes for the privilege of making some money! when i put gas into my cars - a large chunk of that is taxes i pay for the privilege of driving on roads - that mine as well be dirt!

The 9/12 protests were nice to see - gadsden flags "dont tread on me" waving on land we own as tax payers to which we need to pay fees and get permission to use - all while surrounded by heavily armed para-military police forces.

I am happy to see that Amerikans are waking up, but is it too late? The GOP is not our salvation, ron paul is not our salvation. glenn beck is not our salvation.

It angers me to hear the GOP and some prominent conservative voices say we need to "slow down" or "we need to slow this down" - so i am to believe that they don't wanna STOP it, just buy more time. Incrimentalism is a contagious disease we have learned to accept, tolerate and even embrace in this nation.

Frankly, i have become sick over all this. I hear that "we have the power" and "they work for us" - obviously, our 'employees' haven't gotten the hint in a long time. they play us for morons and we like sheep believe them and thus keep re-electing them and tolerating everything they do.

It's true - as long as food is on the table and there is cable tv, the people will accept anything.

so is it all a waste of time? can we really do a 180 degree turn as we head off the cliff? are these protests just buying time?

As a student of history, i see nothing that will prove otherwise to me.

Generation Y rant off....


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I am a generation y-er... and i agree 100%
1 posted on 09/16/2009 6:08:52 PM PDT by seven.sixtwo
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To: seven.sixtwo

GenX

Agreed.


2 posted on 09/16/2009 6:10:59 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar (A mob of one.)
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To: seven.sixtwo

I agree 100%. We had, prior to the current government, the worst growth in government when the GOP was in charge.


3 posted on 09/16/2009 6:16:24 PM PDT by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: seven.sixtwo
Why resist the statists?

Because the alternative is unappealing to me.

4 posted on 09/16/2009 6:17:59 PM PDT by skeeter (Pterocarya fraxinifolia)
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To: seven.sixtwo
If we do nothing, all you say will come to pass. Thus, we must fight.

Follow Churchill's example: "Never give in. Never give in. Never. Never. Never."

5 posted on 09/16/2009 6:19:02 PM PDT by TonyInOhio (Fight)
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To: seven.sixtwo

Gen X and I am right there with you.

I see the massive arrogance and it makes me realize that they know there is nothing we can do about it. The elected officials are so over the top, you’d think it was a Tarantino movie.

I’m trying to fight the hopeless feeling.


6 posted on 09/16/2009 6:27:50 PM PDT by autumnraine (You can't fix stupid, but you can vote it out!)
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To: seven.sixtwo

At least go down fighting. That says more about yourself, your generation, and your own perseverance and spirit than whatever state you believe previous generations left your country in before you came on the scene.


7 posted on 09/16/2009 6:30:28 PM PDT by MCH
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To: seven.sixtwo

Did you not notice your author’s problem with capitalization?

I did not read much of it, but I noticed that. Also, there was at least one misspelling (”loose” for “lose”), I would guess that many more words were not correctly spelled.

I would be ashamed to be associated with such writing.


8 posted on 09/16/2009 6:31:11 PM PDT by OldPossum
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To: seven.sixtwo
"What the previous generation tolerates becomes the norm for the next. " Statement of the year! Bravo!
9 posted on 09/16/2009 6:33:45 PM PDT by ataDude (Its like 1933, mixed with the Carter 70s, plus the books 1984 and Animal Farm, all at the same time.)
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To: seven.sixtwo

Dude man, like that’s like way stupid


10 posted on 09/16/2009 6:34:04 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: OldPossum

getting caught up on the small stuff? not everyone was a scholar in english class. I know more ebonics than english :)


11 posted on 09/16/2009 6:36:59 PM PDT by seven.sixtwo
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To: TonyInOhio
If we do nothing, all you say will come to pass. Thus, we must fight. Follow Churchill's example: "Never give in. Never give in. Never. Never. Never." I believe this is just an open hearted release of anger. I do not see defeat in this.
12 posted on 09/16/2009 6:38:20 PM PDT by seven.sixtwo
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To: seven.sixtwo

Americans demand more from their talk show hosts than they do the politicians that were elected to represent them.

Their ‘representatives’ leave them twisting in the wind but the sheep just can’t wait to vote for them again in 2010.

As if more of the same will fix something.

It’s insane.

I’m seriously beginning to wonder if they all aren’t in on a plan to damage this country, and her people’s confidence, enough to raise up a one world government. I used to think that idea was nuts, but lately the pieces don’t fit any other way.

I certainly cannot apply traditional American logic to their behavior and believe they are trying to make us stronger.

The right still believes the government cares about what they do. They believe in good manners and the ‘high road’ above all else, including offering resistance to their would-be masters.

Those in power don’t care about their little “Tea Parties”. They wouldn’t care if ten million people showed up for a little family picnic on the mall.

If the right won’t wake up and see that both sides are working against them and fight back, then it will end horribly.

The left is attacking and the right is standing aside to allow them full access to the fundamentals of our system.

You don’t believe that Republican lawmakers are really fighting this do you?

They’re busy voting for the ‘rebuking’ of one of their own for daring to tell the truth publicly. Then they ban the best words/phrases that a rational human could use to define them—all in broad daylight.

They are 100% complicitous.

The sheep are taking their medicine and behaving themselves today. How wonderful for the Republic.


13 posted on 09/16/2009 6:50:11 PM PDT by Boucheau
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To: seven.sixtwo
"They will side with us" - another term i have to really laugh at. While a percentage of cops and even military would refuse 'unconstitutional orders' such as gun confiscations, where was the refusal post katrina? ethics or a paycheck? that's what it's come down to in this nation. Would a 'civil servant' really want to disrupt his/her livelihood for the sake of some sheepish citizens? Probably not. Depending on how you look at it - much of what "law enforcement" does is enforce unconstitutional laws.... eh, it's a job.

You are exactly right. I think a great many Freepers are fooling themselves on this point. Lieutenant Calley's men gunned down women and kids without much arm-twisting, after all, and let's remember that the military was involved in Waco, too. If a solider is told by his legitimate commander that Freeper A is a terrorist, that soldier is probably going to shoot Freeper A instead of asking questions, especially if the soldier is one color/belief and the Freeper is of another color/belief.

And let's say that a WMD attack happens that kills a lot of people, and all the TV news stations say it was carried out by a radical Christian or right-wing terrorist organization. Do you really think the powers that be won't send the military after us? After Pearl Harbor, they marched Americans of Japanese ethnicity into camps and no one cared. If a modern-day "Pearl Harbor" were to happen, and if the media said that right-wingers or Jesus Freaks were behind it, do you think anyone would care if they did the same to us?

There's no use trying to fix the system. Representative government simply will not work for long. The current world system is going to crash and no one can stop it. Our goal is to stay alive through the Big Crash and preserve a spark of Western Civilization. Later, when traditional forms of government reassert themselves, that spark of civilization will be needed.

14 posted on 09/16/2009 6:51:54 PM PDT by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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To: seven.sixtwo

My formative years were in the 70’s, I remember feeling the same way. The news everynight was about the end of America as a power. The economy would never come back and by the year 2000, we would be out of oil and freezing in the new ice age.


15 posted on 09/16/2009 7:13:53 PM PDT by dangerdoc (dangerdoc (not actually dangerous any more))
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To: seven.sixtwo

While the author, a very unhappy person for the most part, is “ranting”, can I add one of my own?

There is no “Gen Y”!

Generation X was so designated because it was the 10th generation from the founding of the country. X, as in the Roman numeral for 10.

The next generation would then be generation XI.

Can we retire this “generation whatever” meme now? :)

Rant off.


16 posted on 09/16/2009 7:21:23 PM PDT by News Junkie ( Reason and Faith)
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To: seven.sixtwo
Sir or Madam, although poorly composed I do believe this is an honest delineation of your own thoughts and concerns (as well as mine), for as a college teacher I do indeed hear similar lament from the younger set, which is encouraging,

but a couple suggestions:

one, try to define for yourself what conservatism is, for only then can one tie together the tragic and corrupt actions of the current politically arrogant,

and two, once understood, work on expressing it in a proper and cogent manner so that all can see it.

17 posted on 09/16/2009 7:42:18 PM PDT by jnsun (The LEFT: The need to manipulate others because of nothing productive to offer)
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I'm about a decade before you, but I completely agree.

The world has been ending for a long time, lol.

And it may. At least as we know it. But it seems to me that there is a great deal of “engagement” by people of all ages.

The original post expresses the helpless feelings felt by most at some time in their lives. Especially today.

Well, I'm too old to run...so I guess it's time to stand and fight. I sure would love to see our young people make a stand to regain the greatness of this country. To regain the ethics of prior times. The burden will ultimately rest on their shoulders. We can stand with them.

This country and the people in it are worth saving. I refuse to go down without a fight. IF..that happens..it will be with all flags flying.

18 posted on 09/16/2009 8:16:10 PM PDT by berdie (Hey, Bill Mahr...That's Mrs. Cracker to you.)
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To: seven.sixtwo

Dramatic much?

If you would open your eyes instead of squinting at the small print online you would realize that WE ARE WINNING THIS WAR.

Videotaped, unabashed TRUTH of how the system really works is going to bring the Progressives down. White, black, Hispanic, I don’t care what color your skin is, when you saw the Acorn videos the only thought in your head was “That’s messed up”.

The sheeple were supposed to think Community Organization was a calling every bit as important as the priesthood. They don’t any more.

Sheeple were supposed to think they were racists for opposing the view of someone of a different race. They don’t anymore.

Sheeple were supposed to think Unions were for the little guy. They don’t anymore.

Sheeple were supposed to think Obama was so charismatic he could blind you with his charms. What do those surrounding him do? They put him in the spotlight every minute of the day until Americans grew weary of him.

I could go on forever but you get the point. The people running the show don’t think like average Americans, they think like people trying to fool the average American. They can’t. They’ve misjudged everything they’ve tried because they don’t understand their “enemy” and it will be their downfall.

Think about it. The “most transparent Administration in history” is really just that. Transparent.

Thank God.


19 posted on 09/16/2009 9:24:33 PM PDT by HelloooClareece ("We make war that we may live in peace". Aristotle)
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To: seven.sixtwo

Whippersnapper!


20 posted on 09/16/2009 10:33:19 PM PDT by Daniel II (I'm Jim Thompson, this is my brother Jimmy, and this is my other brother Jimmy)
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