Posted on 09/15/2009 8:32:05 AM PDT by Ge0ffrey
I am just getting old. The Granada was my first thought.
I think Jed had just graduated from high school.
PC I will not be surprised if thats the swing.
Right after you watched "Back to the Future?"
Red Dawn was made in '84.
I would add to your list “Rough Riders,”, the miniseries about the charge up San Juan hill.
In the original movie, Powers Booth played a U.S. Air Force fighter pilot who was shot down over Colorado.
When Jed (Patrick Swayze) asked the Colonel how he got himself shot down, the pilot replied, “It was five against one, I got four of them!”
The Powers Boothe character then went on to explain that on the first day of the war, the Russians nuked key points of communication, including Washington D.C., Omaha and Kansas City. He also said our missile silos were taken out, and paratroopers had taken key passes in the Rocky Mountains.
“We held them at the Rockies, and the Mississippi.” The area between the Rocky Mountains and the Mississippi River were under occupation. In the movie, the rest of the country was called “FA,” or “Free America.” The movie didn’t show was happening in Free America....the movie was set in around the fictional town of Calumet, Colorado (the movie was filmed in New Mexico).
I liked most of it, but I remember being very disappointed by one scene where the wolverines committed a war crime by shooting an unarmed prisoner. Maybe it was the intent of the director to show that war is dehumanizing to even the ‘good guys,’ but that scene sort of ruined the movie for me, because up until that point, the wolverines were all heroes to my young mind.
Team Obama's 4 year plan?
"I thought there was a billion Chinese."
"There WERE!"
I know.....corrected myself about the year in post # 47.
Then again, I saw all of the “Back to the Future” films in various Santa Barbara movie theaters when I lived there.
I should have read down further before being snarky, I guess.
:^)
I almost posted that line about the Chinese.....
Great line by actor Powers Booth (or maybe I should say the WRITERS of the movie).
But it still doesn't top this line.
I’m going to be pissed if the re-make blames the invasion of the U.S. on George W. Bush and Dick Cheney!
I didn’t find that scene disturbing. What were they supposed to do? Bring the prisoner back to their well supplied base camp where he could be interred (there was no “base” camp)? Drag him along to consume their limited food and require one person to constantly watch him? Turn him loose so he could return to town, be decorated as a hero of the revolution, re-armed and lead a party back to their camp?
Were the invaders following the Geneva Convention when they executed hostages? Does the Geneva Convention permit one country to invade another? Is it really so terrible to kill an invader when you have no other options except those that could get you killed?
I think you are partly correct that the writer wanted to fully reveal the dilemmas people might face in the circumstances of the movie, and may do things that from the comfort of our living room chair seem despicable. Of course, they executed a traitor too. That was their more difficult decision and another dilemma.
The reason he was shot...
The difference between us and them is WE LIVE HERE!
from Red Dawn
“I didn’t find that scene disturbing. What were they supposed to do? Bring the prisoner back to their well supplied base camp where he could be interred (there was no “base” camp)?”
Yeah, I realize there were no good choices for dealing the prisoner. If you let the prisoner go, you will die, and if you kill him, you have the blood of an unarmed man on your hands. This was very disturbing to me at the time, because up until I saw Red Dawn, the heroes in the war movies were always untarnished, and never faced these dilemmas. Sometimes life imitates art, because there was a situation not too long ago in Afghanistan where U.S. troops faced exactly this dilemma. They let some unarmed hostiles go, and soon after that, they were killed except for one survivor, who now regrets his decision to let the hostiles go free.
As demonstrated in "Saving Private Ryan."
Fun movie to watch, but harmed by a weak script and some bad acting. Love the message, however.
Probably the best movie Swayze or Sheen ever did.
Only because the Soviets killed a few hundred million of them. Thus "on our side" meant that they shared a common enemy.
Today if might be the Russians on our side, after the Chinese invaded Sibera for "living room", and resources.
Heck the Poles, Czechs & Slovaks, Georgians and Ukranians and even the Romanians are on our side, more or less.
Well Sheen was in "Ferris Bueller's Day Off."
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