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Video: 3-Wheeled Vehicle that GM Says Not Deserving of Federal Funds to Curb 'Global Warming'
CDR ^ | 9/15/2009 | CDR

Posted on 09/15/2009 6:08:49 AM PDT by wrrock

Is a three-wheeled vehicle an "automobile?" That question is at the center of a vigorous lobbying effort in Washington, that would help little car makers like Aptera qualify for a slice of the $25 billion loan program administered by the Department of Energy. Watch video: http://www.cardealerreviews.org/?p=118420

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Chit/Chat; Government
KEYWORDS: globalwarming; gm; government
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1 posted on 09/15/2009 6:08:51 AM PDT by wrrock
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To: wrrock
Unless the Feds change the regs,GM would be opposed. Three Wheelers are technically a motorcycle and do not need all the car regs, big cost savings.

Look at the TriHawk which Harley has the rights too and has done sqwat with. it was esentially a "lotus 7" with 3 wheels, FWD but you get the point.


2 posted on 09/15/2009 6:13:30 AM PDT by taildragger (Palin/Mulally 2012)
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To: wrrock

3 posted on 09/15/2009 6:14:00 AM PDT by Dallas59
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To: taildragger

looks like off road auto to me....


4 posted on 09/15/2009 6:18:26 AM PDT by dalebert
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To: taildragger

It is a nice golf cart.


5 posted on 09/15/2009 6:19:24 AM PDT by billhilly
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To: wrrock

So let me be sure I’ve got this straight.

Companies like GM who build large vehicles that are very safe, but get less economy, so that customers can decide what’s important for themselves are bad.

Companies like Aptera, who build a plastic capsule of death that gets great economy, so that customers can decide what’s important for themselves are good.

As an aside, I know three-wheelers have the potential for great stability on dry pavement. Are there any studies of their performance on snow? I notice with some amusement that there are no motorcycles on the road in certain seasons - and I’m sure it isn’t becuase appropriate all-weather clothing isn’t available.


6 posted on 09/15/2009 6:23:40 AM PDT by chrisser (Tweet not, lest ye a twit be.)
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To: wrrock

The fix is now in
What GM wants, GM gets
Govt protects their own.


7 posted on 09/15/2009 6:30:45 AM PDT by Haiku Guy (If You have a Right / To the Service I provide / I must be a Slave)
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To: wrrock

I have seen some interesting “reverse trikes” on the road around Gainesville and Dawsonville, GA. Don’t know what they are or who makes them, but they’re definitely motorcycles.
I have also seen some sort of “training wheels” set up for motorcycles - two large wheels on some sort of frame set up on either side of the motorcycle’s rear wheel - four wheels. Does that make them a car?


8 posted on 09/15/2009 6:31:14 AM PDT by Little Ray (Obama is a kamikaze president aimed at the heart of this Republic.)
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To: wrrock

Funny, the Morgan three-wheeler was always considered a car rather than a motorcycle.


9 posted on 09/15/2009 6:32:10 AM PDT by Sudetenland (Slow to anger but terrible in vengence...such is the character of the American people.)
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To: wrrock

At LEAST the “Bond Bug” had a roof!

http://www.bondbug.com/gallery/BondBugGeneralGallery/general_6.html


10 posted on 09/15/2009 6:34:44 AM PDT by Mr. Jazzy ("I AM JIM THOMPSON!!!")
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To: Sudetenland
I take that back...apparently for tax purposes they were considered cycles in Britain as well....OOOOOPPPPSSS!!!!

Or as Emily Latella used to say..."Never mind."
11 posted on 09/15/2009 6:36:23 AM PDT by Sudetenland (Slow to anger but terrible in vengence...such is the character of the American people.)
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To: chrisser
The 2-1 three wheelers are very stable and can pull high G turns...the 1-2 three wheelers are death traps.

Great question about snow and ice stability. I suspect that which makes the fun and economical in sunny weather, light weight, would cause them tremendous difficulties under slick conditions. A 2-1 might suddenly become a 1-2. :)
12 posted on 09/15/2009 6:43:09 AM PDT by Sudetenland (Slow to anger but terrible in vengence...such is the character of the American people.)
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To: wrrock
The Piaggio MP3 500cc is much cooler.


13 posted on 09/15/2009 6:44:53 AM PDT by Republican Extremist
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To: billhilly; dalebert; All
Actually it was a sports car that in the mid eighties could pull more G's on the skid pad than the Corvette.

Note the Brit's did the Three wheel thing to avoid taxes.

Lower taxes, potentially lower insurance and price beecause you do not need all the emissions and saftey crap would make GM shutter....

14 posted on 09/15/2009 6:45:47 AM PDT by taildragger (Palin/Mulally 2012)
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To: wrrock

Because 3-wheeled vehicles are considered “motorcycles”, in many states which follow federal guidelines, you need a motorcycle license to operate them, which is silly because some of them drive like cars.

In Massachussets, it turns out that due to quirks in the law, you can’t even register one of the 3-wheeled electric cars, although they had already registered some before the figured out they couldn’t.

Government makes so many rules and regulations that they can’t keep track, and the regulations often are senseless and lead to unintended consequences (like keeping people from buying a more efficient vehicle because they don’t want to go through the expense and trouble of getting a motorcycle license).


15 posted on 09/15/2009 6:51:40 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Little Ray
Those were either Piaggio MP3s, or the Bombardier-made Can Am Spyder, which does not have the ability to actually lean into a turn like the Piaggio.

There is also the Campagna T-Rex, which is a tandem seat 3 wheeler powered by a turbocharged Hayabusa engine, and will do about 180 mph.


16 posted on 09/15/2009 6:52:50 AM PDT by Republican Extremist
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To: wrrock

While this car may have it’s uses as a commuter car, these people need to get their own financing. I don’t want to finance any more businesses thank you. The government needs to get the hell out of the loan business! How frustrating the terrible communist administration is, and then you have a**hats like this lining up at the trough.


17 posted on 09/15/2009 6:57:05 AM PDT by calex59 (FUBO, we want our constitution back and we intend to get it!)
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To: chrisser
As an aside, I know three-wheelers have the potential for great stability on dry pavement. Are there any studies of their performance on snow? I notice with some amusement that there are no motorcycles on the road in certain seasons - and I’m sure it isn’t becuase appropriate all-weather clothing isn’t available.

One:)Motorcycles can, and are, driven in the snow(actually they have ice races in Canada with motorcycles). Two:)No matter what type of clothing you have it is COLD when riding in the winter. 3:)3 wheels are counted as a motorcycle but are much more stable than a bike, depending on the wheel placement, of course. 4:)Even though bikes can be ridden in the winter, they are, of course, much less stable on snow and ice than 3 or 4 wheeled vehicles. 5:)Let these a**hats finance their own car, if there is a market for it they will make money, if not they won't, but it isn't up to the government to give them my money so they can start up their company.

18 posted on 09/15/2009 7:03:22 AM PDT by calex59 (FUBO, we want our constitution back and we intend to get it!)
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To: taildragger

then it qualifies for on road as a motor cycle?


19 posted on 09/15/2009 7:12:28 AM PDT by dalebert
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To: taildragger

Where do you put your golf clubs?


20 posted on 09/15/2009 7:34:46 AM PDT by KSCITYBOY
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